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Starline Brass Prep

The real question with virgin brass is how much effort to put into working up a load that will probably need to be tweaked or possibly even changed markedly once the brass has been fire-formed. How much effort should be put into working up a load in virgin brass that will probably change as soon as it has been fired? Only the individual can decide for themselves.

Having said that, it is absolutely possible to develop a load in quality virgin brass that shoots very, very well, if a little care is taken while preparing the brass. I generally do the following steps with virgin brass:

1) check and uniform flash holes
2) FL re-size with a bushing die
a) with a properly set die, this will not bump the shoulder of virgin brass at all
b) I use a bushing ~.001" smaller than the one I would use if the bushing die were the only sizing step
3) open necks with a mandrel that is .0015" under bullet diameter for ~.002" neck tension/interference fit
4) clean
5) trim/chamfer

Basically, this approach involves sizing down the necks by about .001" more than would normally be used/needed to yield ~.002" neck tension. In other words, you need a bushing about .001" smaller than might normally be used as the sole sizing step to yield .002" neck tension by itself, largely because there can be a range of neck diameters in virgin brass straight out of the box. Thus, the subsequent mandrel step will do work on all the case necks, not just some, opening them up slightly from the inside to a [more] uniform diameter for loading. If one desires a little more or less neck tension than ~.002", the diameter of the bushing and/or mandrel used can be selected appropriately based on the observation that a mandrel of ~.0015" under bullet diameter will yield pretty close to .002" neck tension when combined with the appropriate bushing diameter as described above due to spring-back of the brass.
 
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I’ve been beat by some folks in matches where they were fire forming their brass from 6BR to Dasher. It was Lapua brass to be fair, but it proves @Ned Ludd ’s point that virgin brass of high quality is not a handicap when the shooter knows what they are doing.
 
Made my first order from them on 500 10mm brass... I resize everything before loading but it is some nice brass...
One thing possibly worth note - in my hands Starline .223 Rem and .30-06 brass is hard as nails straight out of the box. I think the necks would probably benefit from annealing prior to doing anything else for optimum precision, although I have never tried it. However, this gets back to the original question of whether annealing is really worth the effort for the first firing.
 
I was trying to get a new batch of Starline 223 brass to shoot closer to my seasoned brass and annealing them before the first firing has done just that.
The neck tension / seating pressure is more consistent.
Annealing and chamfer and deburr and a tumble has given me the consistency I was after.
 
I am ordering some Starline brass for 6.5 Creedmoor. What do y'all do for prep, since this is new brass? Heard some folks doing full case prep, including polishing. Others just priming and loading as is.
Where did you find Starline, 6.5CM brass at? When I started shooting my 6.5 Cm, I bought 400 rounds of new Starline, small primer brass.

That was 6 years ago and still using that brass. You will love it. I did not anneal until last year when I started getting some split necks.

I hand prime my brass and maybe about 10 cases a year will have a primer pocket that is getting large. I can feel how easy the primers go in and will decap it and throw it away.

I have tried Federal, Hornady brass but the Starline gives me the best consist groups and has been reloaded about +30 times without any hiccups. I still have 100 new brass under the bench that I have not used yet.

I do use a Small Base die and trim about every year when needed.

Hope you have the luck I have had with this brass.
 

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