Leadfarmer
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Just out of curiosity. For short range benchrest, has anyone ever shot anything other than a 6ppc and won consistently, or was at least competitive? Whether it be on a national, state or club level.
I have been lucky enough to win both a ubr national grand agg as well as a couple of yardage aggs shooting a 12 twist 6 Grendel with both 68s and 80 grain bullets. It's not a lot different than a ppc, really it's a .070 long 6 ppc but yes, it has been very competitive for me. I like being a bit different but without breaking all the rules. Some things just make more sense than others and to think a Grendel case can't win is really just not being logical, IMHO. It's not much different from a ppc and MIGHT be better with slower lots of powder. Can't say for sure because the difference is too small for me to shoot that difference. Good bullets and bbls are far more important imo.Just out of curiosity. For short range benchrest, has anyone ever shot anything other than a 6ppc and won consistently, or was at least competitive? Whether it be on a national, state or club level.
That's awesome! And interesting. (I'm new to all this) Is it a simple neck down of the 6.5G brass or are you turning necks?I have been lucky enough to win both a ubr national grand agg as well as a couple of yardage aggs shooting a 12 twist 6 Grendel with both 68s and 80 grain bullets. It's not a lot different than a ppc, really it's a .070 long 6 ppc but yes, it has been very competitive for me. I like being a bit different but without breaking all the rules. Some things just make more sense than others and to think a Grendel case can't win is really just not being logical, IMHO. It's not much different from a ppc and MIGHT be better with slower lots of powder. Can't say for sure because the difference is too small for me to shoot that difference. Good bullets and bbls are far more important imo.
Yes and even a no turn neckThat's awesome! And interesting. (I'm new to all this) Is it a simple neck down of the 6.5G brass or are you turning necks?
Can you see why I enjoy winning with something else. Lol!By all means continue everyone. Haha. I also understand that the 6ppc is king of the hill and before that it sounds like it was a .222rem. I will probably end up with a 6ppc. However, a 6 Grendel is intriguing. The prospect of not having to turn necks is nice. I'd be more curious of what brass and barrel life are like compared to a 6ppc.
peterson is coming out with 6 arc brass soonIf Lapua were to come out with the 6ARC brass that would be something
It may work as is. The shoulder may not need to be shortened to standard PPc length
At least if it has to be pushed back .045 it will still be much easier to form
Lots of folks experiment continually
I have thought about that ever since the ARC came out.If Lapua were to come out with the 6ARC brass that would be something
It may work as is. The shoulder may not need to be shortened to standard PPc length
At least if it has to be pushed back .045 it will still be much easier to form
Lots of folks experiment continually
I think if they can ever get back to normal production, the standardization of the two ARC cartridges may be the best chance of Lapua doing this. Fwiw, a 22 Arc is a Grendel and the 6 is a shortened Grendel, in between it and a ppc, but all very closeI have thought about that ever since the ARC came out.
It has always been thought that the reason Lapua never came out with an actual 6PPC case was they sold every 220 Russian case they made every year, so why bother.
It’s the same with the 30BR. I would be curious to know how many Lapua 6BR cases get transformed into a 30 BR every year.
Don't hold your breath. They also said they were going to make 30BR brass and as we all know it never happened.I'm just sitting here waiting on the Alpha 6PPC brass to arrive.
Yes, and not knocking it but I simply have not found any other brass that holds pressure and is of otherwise decent quality, like Lapua brass. Particularly in the 220, Grendel and BR brass. This being a not so small sample over the last 25 years, roughly. Again though, I do think there are pretty good alternatives to Lapua if you're not loading at the very top end.Don't hold your breath. They also said they were going to make 30BR brass and as we all know it never happened.