Solvent poll....

[bobinpa]

Which solvent do you use and why do you like it?

 

[billmo]

Montana Extreme Copper Killer all the time. It gets the job done quick and easy. Only one solvent to fool with. Bill

 

[bobinpa]

Does it smell as bad as their reg solvent? I use Montana Extreme and check for copper with Sweets. It is just abut time to buy some more MX so I'm wondering if I shouldn't try something else?.?. A good friend of mine has started using TM solution and he seems to like it. He says it does a nice job and doesn't smell, but neither he or I have a copper problem, so I don't know how it would work on copper.

 

[zedsdead]

Wipeout. I have a new baby and work 50-60 hours a week so finding time to get out and shoot is usually a circus stunt. With Wipeout I can let them set for a couple hours, run a couple patches through and put them in the safe. That being said, I don't shoot competition so my smaller calibers are the only ones getting hammered, my 270 and 300 usually don't see over ten or fifteen rounds between cleanings. Not sure how well it works on big bores after a full day at the range. It works great for my needs.

 

[billmo]

Smells pretty bad Bob, but I just don't take a wiff of it. Be fore warned DO NOT TRY IT. It has a red label on the bottle cap that warns about strong odor. Don't check it out. Bill

 

[ReedG]

In my benchrest barrels I use a couple of well-soaked patches of Kroil, two dry, one impregnated with J-Bs short-stroked, one soaked Kroil, one or two dry followed by one with just a drop of Kroil.

 

[bobinpa]

ReedG, I've never heard of that method. What properties does Kroil have for removing copper/carbon or do you depend on the JB for that? If the JB takes out the copper/carbon, what properties does Kroil have to "loosen" it? Are you using JB Bore Brite or Cleaner?

 

[jb77]

Butch's Bore Shine works great and no bad smell.

 

[patchhound]

I used wipe out all of last year for my 6br and thought it was doing a good job till I took it to my `smith to bore scope it last month. Had a bad build up of carbon and copper 5" down the throat and a carbon "ring" around the tip of the neck. Needless to say I discovered you need a bit more to get the job done... Now I use Montana extreem outside or sweets 7.62 indoors + brush and JB a bit. After I`m done I but a patch of lighter fluid through it. Still use the wipe out to soak over night.

 

[Flybuster]

I am a lowly accuracy oriented varmint hunter, but heres what I use. On my varmint rifles I use Wipe-out. I have been convinced its the easiest way to clean. As for the carbon build up, I have read reports on that. I do not own a borescope yet so I don't know how that is affecting me. I am anxious to try some Carb-Out made by the same company as Wipe-out.
For my new rifle F-class rifle I will continue to use Wipe-Out and probably some Carb-out.

My second favorite solvent is Butch's Bore Shine. Which I use on my Automatic rifles.

 

[Craigyboy]

I have tried alot of stuff and for running in a barrel you cant beat montana extreme cooper killer 2-3 wet patches and all is gone. For normal cleaning I have been using ordinary montana extreme bore slovent which while weaker than the cooper killer it does a great job, afer 30 shots 5 patches wet and 5 patches dry is all it takes to clean my 3 groove pac-nor barrel. I have recently tred some new stuff called m-pro 7 carbon cleaner and cooper killer, this stuff has no smell and is fully biodegradeable and it works very well at least the carbon cleaner does, I dont have a cooper problem so cant comment on that. I also from time to time use montana extreme cooper cream, this stuff leaves the barrel so smooth after only a couple of patches, the patches just glid down after a quick sesson with the cream.

I have also in the past used wipeout and find it quite good but its no good if you want to clean the barrel and get the rifle back in the safe quick, butches also works great foe general cleaning, I must admit though that the latest pac-nor 3 groove I have on my varmint rifle cleans so easy that I think anything would clean it.

 

[Magical_Merlin]

I use Boretech Eliminator. After I am finished cleaning with it, I tried the 50 BMG Copper Killer and had no signs of copper. Also I believe the BT is biodegradable and it doesn't smell at all.

 

[fdshuster]

Butch's Bore Shine

 

[ReedG]

Bob:

Not sure when shooters started using Kroil, but I hardly know a BR shooter without a bottle of it. It is advertised as a penetrating oil and it's pretty remarkable stuff.,Midway has it on sale right now!)

As far as common powder fouling, plain Kroil takes it out with the two wet patches. Probably any of the cleaners will do the same thing. The J-Bs "Non-emedding Bore Cleaning Compound",by Brownell's) will take care of the rest. This cleaning regimen is based on info from Jim Borden when he built my new rifle and is aimed at those using coated bullets. I only shoot t-d coated bullets in all guns.

My personal experience with Butch's Bore Shine is that if I could only have one cleaner, Butch's would be it. It has a mix of Kroil in it and is very good. I shy away from the "kill-you-if-you-smell-it" stuff. Tried some Slip 2000 from a friend and it corroded the container and ate out the seams and ran all over the bench. Not the kind of stuff I want in my barrels.

When I have finished cleaning, regardless of method, I always run a patch of Kroil down the barrel. I never leave a dry barrel.

 

[treeman]

I use half kroil & half shooters choice and if there is a copper problem i use jb bore cleaner/20 strokes. for carbon removal I use mercury engine cleaner on a bronze brush/dry patch/kroil patch,damp not soaked) this works well for me it leaves em squeeky cleen. it even cleanes out moly. to all have a prosperous new year and god bless!!!___treeman

 

[Preacher]

Butches Bore Shine, and a touch of Kroil works for me...

 

[1shot]

I've used Slip2000 for the last two years and never experienced any of the problems that Reed G. spoke of. I've examined the bore of my 1K rifle on several occasions after cleaning it with the Slip2000 and saw no evidence of copper or carbon. Now having said all of that, I was introduced to a cleaner at Perry last summer called Gunzilla. No bad odor, and really gets down to the bare metal in a hurry. It claims to also have a rust preventitive in it as well, but I always finish with a patch of lighter fluid, followed by a very lightly oiled patch of Kroil.
Hope this helps,
Lloyd

 

[mattdienes]

I use Patch-Out and a bronze brush followed up with MT Copper Killer on all my 300 WSM's and with my 6x 47 Lap I'll use some JB on the throat first then clean with Patch Out.

 

[garyw]

KG1 CARBON CLEANER 3 PATCHES LEAVE FOR 15 mins THEN TWO DRY PATCHES.1 WET PATCH OF KROIL THAT IS MIXED 50/50 WITH BUTCHS BORE SHINE LEAVE FOR 10 mins.PATCH OUT TILL CLEAN THEN 1/2 DROPS OF NEAT KROIL AND PUT THE GUN AWAY.REAL BAD FOULING, WIPE OUT LEFT TO SIT OVERNIGHT.THATS FOR A 2Ocal AND 17cal.

IV JUST BOUGHT SOME JB HOW MUCH SHOULD YOU PUT ON A PATCH ?I WAS TOLD ABOUT THE SAME SIZE AS A MATCH HEAD????.
garyw.

 

[ReedG]

Gary:

I use a patch "impregnated" with J-Bs. I wipe my finger on the J-Bs and get a small gob of it, then I rub it into the patch. I don't believe you can use too much of it. It's not a grinding compound and won't harm the barrel.