Coyotefurharvester
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Has nothing to do with brand of brass. Setup dies correctly problem will not happen.
I do not disagree that a round can be stuck. I have used a regular, non-bushing die, for a few loaded rounds without problem, but, I have also removed the neck bushing from another die. I should have made that distinction.The brass and other components can certainly be salvaged, but the above appears to suggest sizing a loaded round. Not a good idea.
Sizing a loaded round is a good way to get it stuck in the sizing die, if it doesn’t stick, you end up with an under sized bullet that won’t shoot worth a spit.
Had that problem with a Foster seating die. Since I had several Foster dies that worked just fine. I decided to put my man pride aside and read the instructions. You can solve a lot of problems by reading the directions.A friend is having a problem with chambering some rounds that have been full length sized and reloaded. It appears that when the shoulder is being bumped back that the body of the brass is getting crushed at the shoulder/body junction. In the two photos you will see where the brass was marked with a marking pen. That brass was then honed to reveal the high and low spots. Relevant known details are:
Cartridge: 204 Ruger
Die: RCBS
Brass: Remington. The problem does not happen with Winchester brass.
The bullets are flat based and the bottom of the bullet is set at about the neck/shoulder junction. There is no donut getting pushed to the outside that I could detect. It looks like the crush expansion was causing the difficult chambering.
In comparing shoulder bump, most of the sized brass is 1-2 thousands shorter than the fired brass (1-2 thou bump that is). On these that have the crush, there does not appear to be any shoulder bump. They measure the same as the fired brass.
The only thing that comes to mind is that the die shoulder/body junction has a wider diameter than the chamber and the brass is weak at the point.
Anyone ever run into this? If so, were you able to determine the cause?
Don't ya just hate having to RTFM? I do.Had that problem with a Foster seating die. Since I had several Foster dies that worked just fine. I decided to put my man pride aside and read the instructions. You can solve a lot of problems by reading the directions.
My reloading die made by Lee does that at times and when it does I have to take apart clean and lube and good to go again. Are you using Lee Dies?A friend is having a problem with chambering some rounds that have been full length sized and reloaded. It appears that when the shoulder is being bumped back that the body of the brass is getting crushed at the shoulder/body junction. In the two photos you will see where the brass was marked with a marking pen. That brass was then honed to reveal the high and low spots. Relevant known details are:
Cartridge: 204 Ruger
Die: RCBS
Brass: Remington. The problem does not happen with Winchester brass.
The bullets are flat based and the bottom of the bullet is set at about the neck/shoulder junction. There is no donut getting pushed to the outside that I could detect. It looks like the crush expansion was causing the difficult chambering.
In comparing shoulder bump, most of the sized brass is 1-2 thousands shorter than the fired brass (1-2 thou bump that is). On these that have the crush, there does not appear to be any shoulder bump. They measure the same as the fired brass.
The only thing that comes to mind is that the die shoulder/body junction has a wider diameter than the chamber and the brass is weak at the point.
Anyone ever run into this? If so, were you able to determine the cause?
They are RCBS in Ruger 204.My reloading die made by Lee does that at times and when it does I have to take apart clean and lube and good to go again. Are you using Lee Dies?
I worked as a Millwright for a big part of my career. A lot of the time we didn't have a manual. Two man crews and we we had to do the best we could with what we had. No Google to help.Don't ya just hate having to RTFM? I do.![]()
I think those are called the good old days.I worked as a Millwright for a big part of my career. A lot of the time we didn't have a manual. Two man crews and we we had to do the best we could with what we had. No Google to help.
No fun in that mess. It is more fun to screw something up and then go back and have to fix the screw up. In my case, this usually involves an expensive part.Had that problem with a Foster seating die. Since I had several Foster dies that worked just fine. I decided to put my man pride aside and read the instructions. You can solve a lot of problems by reading the directions.
Getting alive round stuck is only half the issue. Again using 30 caliber as an example.I do not disagree that a round can be stuck. I have used a regular, non-bushing die, for a few loaded rounds without problem, but, I have also removed the neck bushing from another die. I should have made that distinction.
I am 81 now and Google everything.I think those are called the good old days.![]()
Yeah, one develops a dependency on search engines nearly as deeply as the dependency on cell phones. I'm dependent as well. How did we survive in our youth...I am 81 now and Google everything.![]()
LOL. Remember when you had to streamline your code so it would fit in the limited memory space? Or so it would run faster. Amazing what could be done with 64k of memory and a 5 1/4 floppy. These days you can't make a windowed program without MBs of canned software.Yeah, one develops a dependency on search engines nearly as deeply as the dependency on cell phones. I'm dependent as well. How did we survive in our youth...
That said, I spent over 40 years as a software engineer developing a lot of the technologies that are the underpinnings of many of today's technologies. I get pretty disgusted with the state of a lot of these technologies, or bloatware as I call them.
And it was all assembler and you had to count the t states on interrupt service routines to insure you did not take to much time and cause other interrupts to be lost. These days very few know how to write code. They just plug components to together that other people wrote and the majority of the work being done is passing messages between those components. Don't get me started about the serialization and transmission of multi-megabyte JSON objects across networks to execute a simple function. People ask if I miss it. Not once since I retired. And I couldn't survive in today's work world. I'd be fired in days for being honest. Which reminds me of something that came across my cell phone the other day.LOL. Remember when you had to streamline your code so it would fit in the limited memory space? Or so it would run faster. Amazing what could be done with 64k of memory and a 5 1/4 floppy. These days you can't make a windowed program without MBs of canned software.
Nothing makes the “Good O’ld Day” so good, as a bad memory…I think those are called the good old days.![]()
Our generations are obsessed with info and details. Nothing wrong with getting info if it isn’t from a nut case. I’m always Googling something. I’m pretty good at weeding junk out of the weeds.I am 81 now and Google everything.![]()
Good ol' Days.I think those are called the good old days.![]()