Okay, so now I will handload .308 caliber bullets into a SUPER-LONG brass case. I fire it once with 150 grain factory-fare, and decided this was too much recoil for me. He seems to love it. I ordered bullets and dies yesterday for the potent .30/06. My first loads will be: 165 grain Nosler AccuBond bullets with CCI 250 primers and 58.0 grains of H4350 powder. This seems a fairly basic load, and I'm open to suggestions. Cliffy, new to this high-power caliber. Cliffy