I use my shotgun as a point and shoot gun with just a bead. I have found I need more precision when shooting 3 gun. My question is would a ghost ring sight be distracting for point shooting when not being used to sight for slugs
Shotgun ghost ring sight
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Dusty Stevens
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I dont find it to be a distraction. Mine has tritium dots and a tritium front sight. They were installed by wilson combat and i bet they sell em seperately
Curious on this one. I keep threatening to put them on my 870's. I have tendency to aim high and think a simple no frills ring design may be a good thing, but had same concern as OP.
shoot4fun
Gold $$ Contributor
Back before my wheels went bad and my eyesight tagged along I shot a lot of USPSA and much of it (Three-Gun Nationals several times) was Three-Gun (now Multi-Gun I believe). My original comp shotgun had typical open type sights for Limited Class and that was the gun's only use. When I started shooting Open I built it around a Remington 11-87 using a fiber-optic extra large bead on the vent rib. That became my favorite sighting system for shotgun and, since it was not a permanent alteration, I could use that gun for other sports too. I later reworked that gun to fit Limited Class rules using an eight round tube and a 20" barrel with what Remington called slug sights. I still have the gun and it has been a turkey hunting, Zombie shooting and home defense essential.
I will admit to the fact that the ghost ring type sights have always baffled me and on a shotgun they proved no more accurate than the standard beads they are supplied with.
The F/O beads I used were very similar to this:
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3Sigma
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No ghost ring... but for turkey and slugs (to 50 yards) I use this.
Can keep the front bead in tact and are easily removed.
It helps me on moving game too, but I'm a horrible shotgunner with cross dominant eyesight. A ghost ring would likely do the same for me.
Can keep the front bead in tact and are easily removed.
It helps me on moving game too, but I'm a horrible shotgunner with cross dominant eyesight. A ghost ring would likely do the same for me.
To the OP: ghost rings are great. You just look through the rear and only pay attention to the front, as you do with a bead alone. If you want something brighter (and it's almost all daylight work), you can have a fiber front. Even faster and no larger so no loss of precision.
All aperture sights (peep, ghost ring...) work because human brains like to center stuff. You don't have to pay any attention to centering the front in the circle, as your brain wants to do it for you. Neat trick.
It is harder (slower) to line up a thing between two other things. So we can align dots and notch-and-post sights, but less rapidly and the rear has to be positioned further forward so they can be sharply focused on so those can interfere with a clean view of the front as you worry.
All aperture sights (peep, ghost ring...) work because human brains like to center stuff. You don't have to pay any attention to centering the front in the circle, as your brain wants to do it for you. Neat trick.
It is harder (slower) to line up a thing between two other things. So we can align dots and notch-and-post sights, but less rapidly and the rear has to be positioned further forward so they can be sharply focused on so those can interfere with a clean view of the front as you worry.
In 3gun you often have to shoot bird shot and slugs on the same stage. I like the quick change option but do these affect your point shooting when installled?
KMart
Gold $$ Contributor
The only thing I can see helpful about a ghost ring on a shotgun is, that it will make you keep your head down on the stock to see through the ring. Cheek weld on a shotgun stock IS the rear sight. It has to be the same for every shot.
Things that makes you a poor shot with a shotgun is:
Improper mounting of the buttstock into the shoulder. It has to be in the same spot every time. Moving the stock from shoulder out to the arm and other places, will make the shots go left and right. Winter and summer shooting can make this problematic, due to tee shirts vs heavy coats.
Improper cheek to stock contact. Raising your head even a little will cause your shot to go high. The more you raise your head, the higher the shot will go.
Focusing your eye on the front bead. If you do that, you will lose perspective on the target. Your eye focus should be on the target, with your head down on the stock and the buttstock in one location on your shoulder.
Shotguns are made to fit a "body standard" If you are tall and have long arms, the stock may be too short. Short arms, may make it too long.
Wide faces vs skinny faces can make it shoot left or right.
You have to find a gun that shoots where you look. If and when you find one, don't get rid of it.
Things that makes you a poor shot with a shotgun is:
Improper mounting of the buttstock into the shoulder. It has to be in the same spot every time. Moving the stock from shoulder out to the arm and other places, will make the shots go left and right. Winter and summer shooting can make this problematic, due to tee shirts vs heavy coats.
Improper cheek to stock contact. Raising your head even a little will cause your shot to go high. The more you raise your head, the higher the shot will go.
Focusing your eye on the front bead. If you do that, you will lose perspective on the target. Your eye focus should be on the target, with your head down on the stock and the buttstock in one location on your shoulder.
Shotguns are made to fit a "body standard" If you are tall and have long arms, the stock may be too short. Short arms, may make it too long.
Wide faces vs skinny faces can make it shoot left or right.
You have to find a gun that shoots where you look. If and when you find one, don't get rid of it.
3Sigma
Silver $$ Contributor
It has not impacted mine, but I wasn't a great shot before and I'm still not. It does help me focus my vision better (a ghost ring would probably work better), which is one of my biggest hurdles in the field as I shoot right handed and I am left eye dominant.
The best solution for this is a Red Dot, not sure if it is legal in 3 gun. I would have went that way, but no good way to mount one on my Winchester pump.
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