Shotgun Coyote #2 TSS

[wedgy]

Had 3 come in to the edge of the brush with this male about 15 feet in front of the other 2 but couldn't get a shot at the rear pair without exposing my position. 72 yards with #2 TSS absolutely flattened him, close to 30 holes and lots of broken bones.View attachment 542578View attachment 542579View attachment 542580

 

[RegionRat]

Yup.

TSS #2 is good medicine for coyotes. If that stuff wasn't so darned expensive, I would use it on everything shotgun.

 

[killahog]

Wedgy are those your reloads?

 

[gle3105]

Awesome! Good hunting right there!
Wedgy, May I ask what you used to draw them in?

 

[linebaugh]

I played with that shot in 3/4 oz loads at very high velocity and the stuff is amazing. These were the loads we got the best range and pattern out of all the concoctions we tried. I wish I would have kept load data. Think we used longshot powder and I know we had to cut wads and hulls and roll crimp.
Thanks for sharing. You got me wanting to play with the concept again. The worst part is paying 80 bucks a pound for shot. That gets pretty rough in a hurry

 

[gle3105]

Contact Brent Merryman. TRIPLE B METALS. Last #9 - 18gm/cc shot I bought was $35 a lb.
My go to for TSS.
I’ve been loading #4 TSS as a yote load

 

[wedgy]

Wedgy are those your reloads?

Yes, I reload 12, 20, & .410 in TSS

 

[wedgy]

Awesome! Good hunting right there!
Wedgy, May I ask what you used to draw them in?

Using a Foxpro electronic caller I start with a female howl and got a response bark then did a really short rabbit distress when they were hung up in the brush.

 

[jxb]

I used to know some guys that used 10ga with BB and said it was good to 100yrds, working in pairs one used a rifle for far and the other with the 10ga for <100yrds. Given your results makes me wonder how far a 10ga would be effective with #2 TSS

 

[RegionRat]

Were those steel BB or lead BB?

I used to run plated lead BB on coyotes before they took those off the table here, and can tell you that TSS does a much better job of terminal ballistics. The only downside is the stuff is stupid expensive.

There is no doubt that the number of pellets in the air using a 10GA can be higher than a 12GA (or 20GA), but in terms of what happens at distance... the velocity and density determines the outcome in terms of penetration of the TSS pellet. Tungsten also patterns very well due to the pellets not loosing shape.

We used these Hornady nickel plated BB heavy magnums but found that their practical range was roughly 50 to 65 yards, not 100 unless you got a golden BB to hit the lottery. Stinging a coyote at that distance is one thing, but smashing the off button is another.


The basic difference in the density and hardness of tungsten versus lead or steel becomes the story and the results basically favor the high density projectile being able to get to those distances with enough velocity to penetrate hide/flesh/bones.

There are some free-ware shotgun ballistics calculators floating around on the web, and if you play with the steel versus lead versus tungsten, unless you count the $$ the tungsten always wins.

 

[wedgy]

My buddies dad shoots Canada geese well past 60 yards with a .410 using #9 TSS similar to this load;

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18 g/cc Tungsten Super Shot TSS by Prairiewind Decoys

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[jxb]

Were those steel BB or lead BB?

I used to run plated lead BB on coyotes before they took those off the table here, and can tell you that TSS does a much better job of terminal ballistics. The only downside is the stuff is stupid expensive.

There is no doubt that the number of pellets in the air using a 10GA can be higher than a 12GA (or 20GA), but in terms of what happens at distance... the velocity and density determines the outcome in terms of penetration of the TSS pellet. Tungsten also patterns very well due to the pellets not loosing shape.

We used these Hornady nickel plated BB heavy magnums but found that their practical range was roughly 50 to 65 yards, not 100 unless you got a golden BB to hit the lottery. Stinging a coyote at that distance is one thing, but smashing the off button is another.
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The basic difference in the density and hardness of tungsten versus lead or steel becomes the story and the results basically favor the high density projectile being able to get to those distances with enough velocity to penetrate hide/flesh/bones.

There are some free-ware shotgun ballistics calculators floating around on the web, and if you play with the steel versus lead versus tungsten, unless you count the $$ the tungsten always wins.

Oh this was in the 80's or 90's, pretty sure plain ol BB's. The idea was not only long and short pairs of shooters, but it was also back when the pelts were worth something they didn't even need to sew up pellet holes like we did most entrance and certainly exit holes. I was just astounded that they could and did routinely kill yotes up to 100yrds with those. They said a 12ga wasn't even close, but clearly those TSS narrow the gap!

 

[Sneedvegas01]

I’m a firm believer in TSS, I have killed 30-35 coyotes with a shotgun over the last year and a half or so most of them with #2 apex tss but a few with #4 apex tss. All of these were between 5 steps and 50 yards, but I have heard of guys killing them at 100 yards with the #2s.

I shot lead bbs, t shot, and some #4 buck before I went to tss and I lost a bunch of coyotes (more than I killed) I’m sure a lot of those ran off and died but it’s hard to follow a blood trail with a shot gun.

I was skeptical about it at first because of the price but as long as I can afford TSS that’s what I’ll be shooting from now on. Oh and #9 TSS is hell on turkeys too.