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Short of lapping what aboutvthe Burris XTR Sig. Rings

Short of buying a lapping rod and compound etc. who has had experience using the mentioned Burris rings that use the inserts?
Do they absolutely keep from leaving faint marks on the scopes main tube?
Reason I ask is I used some Warne vertical split rings on a Burris Veracity and although they did a good job etc as far as not marring the tube body I wanted something easier to move the scope if needed. The vertical split rings are a pita imho. Neat thing is Warne even states not to lap them due to being vertical split rings versus horizontal capped rings which need lapping.
I have a new Sightron coming (8-32x56) and was thinking the Burris might be a good choice as from my understanding they will not mar the tube.
What you say?
 
I have used nothing but the Burris signature zee rings for the last 10 years and have not marked one scope. Some people say that the scope can move and I will tell them they didn't install them correctly. We used them on a Barrett single shot 50 cal with a NF BR scope and nothing moved. There not the easiest to get the scope lined up because as soon as you snug them down the inserts start to clamp down but they still don't mark the scope when you do move it.
Use them with confidence.
 
Do folks fail to realize that a 50 cal with a good muzzle brake is not very much recoil? Anyone who has shot one knows this to be true. A 30-06 has more recoil. There's plenty of youtube videos with children shooting 50 cal rifles.

Here's a video of a 5 year old boy shooting a semi auto Barrett 50 cal at 200 yards repeatedly...

Here's a video of a 10 year old boy shooting a bolt action 50 cal...

Is a 50 cal rifle with a muzzle brake heavy recoil? I don't think so.
 
A 50 BMG shakes more scopes apart then any other gun. It is the muzzle blast coming back. A semi would have less but still is bad. Matt
 
I don't know how many 50's you have shot but I will shoot my unbraked 06 over any of the 50's I have shot ANY day of the week. Let them little kids shoot more than a couple of shots then check there shoulder for bruises and watch and see what kind of flinch developes.
 
I've shot bolt style shoulder rifle and turret mounted 50 cal machine guns (no recoil on turret mounted tho). A 300 win mag definitely has way more recoil, but doesn't deliver the shock wave to your face from the blast.

I've never fired a single shot 50 cal.

Below is a link to Barrett's 50 cal recoil demonstration. I suppose different Barret models have different levels of recoil. Buy I'm sure none of them are very bad considering they are nearly 30 lb rifles with muzzle brakes.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RzUAQoyvrOw&ved=0ahUKEwjgiLP6_5jUAhVM4CYKHcAcAPYQwqsBCDswAg&usg=AFQjCNHUGXMlIRUMenBDt0XPbMlnv89esw&sig2=6oymvtwvVXLwXmlej-VGdw
 
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They don't recoil much at all Larry. There's nothing to it. I personally think they are a pointless waste of money and would never own one, but they don't kick hard at all. That's why young children are able to shoot them. I guess some folks are more sensitive to recoil and that's ok.

I found a video on the Barrett model 99 single shot. The rifle barely moves. Muzzle doesn't even jump and the bipod never leaves the table. The guy even has the butt resting on his arm the entire time while he fires multiple rounds. So I'm sure it doesn't kick much harder than the rest of them. Here's the link. They don't kick.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wLJNfRZPCFs&ved=0ahUKEwjQ2q6ZgpnUAhVCbiYKHesFAeUQwqsBCDYwAg&usg=AFQjCNFT3evKD0o6V843IY9uuvedb1Frhw&sig2=E0CXmGu6qiwKY30AtZyR-w

Up until last year, I was shooting my 338-375 Ruger with 250gr bullets at 2930 fps and no muzzle brake. That's more power than 338 Lapua 250gr factory ammo. That beast can do some shoulder damage. I ended up putting a brake on it finally when I went to a lighter carbon fiber stock. You wanna test a scope and mounts, put them on that rifle without a brake and you'll know really quick if something is gonna give.

I'm not saying I like heavy recoil or prefer it, I'm just saying that I've shot 50 cals and they don't recoil anything like most people think when compared to large magnums without a muzzle brake.
 
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Back to the OP's questions. I have used the Burris Signature rings on a half dozen scopes, never marked one (actually, we haven't figured out any way you could mark one with these rings, lol), and the rifles run from .22RF to .338 LM and not one scope has moved. They have become my ring of choice, especially on long range setups, where the offset ring inserts are very useful.
 
They don't recoil much at all Larry. There's nothing to it. I personally think they are a pointless waste of money and would never own one, but they don't kick hard at all. That's why young children are able to shoot them. I guess some folks are more sensitive to recoil and that's ok.

I found a video on the Barrett model 99 single shot. The rifle barely moves. Muzzle doesn't even jump and the bipod never leaves the table. The guy even has the butt resting on his arm the entire time while he fires multiple rounds. So I'm sure it doesn't kick much harder than the rest of them. Here's the link. They don't kick.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wLJNfRZPCFs&ved=0ahUKEwjQ2q6ZgpnUAhVCbiYKHesFAeUQwqsBCDYwAg&usg=AFQjCNFT3evKD0o6V843IY9uuvedb1Frhw&sig2=E0CXmGu6qiwKY30AtZyR-w

Up until last year, I was shooting my 338-375 Ruger with 250gr bullets at 2930 fps and no muzzle brake. That's more power than 338 Lapua 250gr factory ammo. That beast can do some shoulder damage. I ended up putting a brake on it finally when I went to a lighter carbon fiber stock. You wanna test a scope and mounts, put them on that rifle without a brake and you'll know really quick if something is gonna give.

I'm not saying I like heavy recoil or prefer it, I'm just saying that I've shot 50 cals and they don't recoil anything like most people think when compared to large magnums without a muzzle brake.
I don't see good hearing protection on any of the children . Recoil can cause a flinch for life when you loose hearing that is for life also . Flinch can be cured over time .but hearing is for ever Larry
 
I'm not going to argue. If you try the Burris Signature zee rings you will be happy. I personally have or have had them on 222,243,223,257rob,6/47,6.5/47,6.5/284,7/57,8/57,7mag,30-06,308,300wsm,300win mag,300ultra,375ultra, a 6 pound 45-70with 405gr. hard cast at 2000fps. Plus that damn 50 cal Barrett bolt gun. These were all hunting weight rifles. I also have them on most of my bench rifles. I have plenty of experience with them they will work I'm sure you would be happy with them.
 
They don't recoil much at all Larry. There's nothing to it. I personally think they are a pointless waste of money and would never own one, but they don't kick hard at all. That's why young children are able to shoot them. I guess some folks are more sensitive to recoil and that's ok.

I found a video on the Barrett model 99 single shot. The rifle barely moves. Muzzle doesn't even jump and the bipod never leaves the table. The guy even has the butt resting on his arm the entire time while he fires multiple rounds. So I'm sure it doesn't kick much harder than the rest of them. Here's the link. They don't kick.


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wLJNfRZPCFs&ved=0ahUKEwjQ2q6ZgpnUAhVCbiYKHesFAeUQwqsBCDYwAg&usg=AFQjCNFT3evKD0o6V843IY9uuvedb1Frhw&sig2=E0CXmGu6qiwKY30AtZyR-w

Up until last year, I was shooting my 338-375 Ruger with 250gr bullets at 2930 fps and no muzzle brake. That's more power than 338 Lapua 250gr factory ammo. That beast can do some shoulder damage. I ended up putting a brake on it finally when I went to a lighter carbon fiber stock. You wanna test a scope and mounts, put them on that rifle without a brake and you'll know really quick if something is gonna give.

I'm not saying I like heavy recoil or prefer it, I'm just saying that I've shot 50 cals and they don't recoil anything like most people think when compared to large magnums without a muzzle brake.
I saw a video where this woman, about 95 lbs I am guessing. She shot a bolt action from what looked like a wooden porch. She was laying on some kind of mat. The recoil actually slid her back a little.

My buddies have 50 IMP they compete with and hunt with. I was with my buddy in huntting season when he shot his. I tried to watch the Wash and impact. I was back about 50 feet at a 45 degree angle. He fired and i didnt see a thing. I was in the muzzle blast and my bigeyes didn't stop shaking for the 3 seconds it took that big bullet to cover 1800 yards. Next shot, I moved more behind the shooter and saw the impact. The muzzle blast from them can be horrible especially with a clam shell brake. Matt
 
I saw a video where this woman, about 95 lbs I am guessing. She shot a bolt action from what looked like a wooden porch. She was laying on some kind of mat. The recoil actually slid her back a little.

My buddies have 50 IMP they compete with and hunt with. I was with my buddy in huntting season when he shot his. I tried to watch the Wash and impact. I was back about 50 feet at a 45 degree angle. He fired and i didnt see a thing. I was in the muzzle blast and my bigeyes didn't stop shaking for the 3 seconds it took that big bullet to cover 1800 yards. Next shot, I moved more behind the shooter and saw the impact. The muzzle blast from them can be horrible especially with a clam shell brake. Matt

Yeah the muzzle blast is furious for sure. That was one thing about the 50 cal machine guns I actually enjoyed in the military :) As a yound man i thought it was pretty cool how each round sent a shock wave that blew my hair back.

My favorite was the M60 machine gun tho. That sucker rips off some 7.62 rounds in a hurry and can be fired from the hip with a shoulder sling. Nowhere near the power of the 50 BMG, but still plenty of power and a much faster rate of fire
 
They are great , as said , have used them on various calipers from 22 through 30-06 , no problems . Another cool thing is if you get a rifle that is Drilled and tapped a little off you can use the various inserts to put the scope back on track .
Kenneth
 

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