short barrel 20 practical build
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B23
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Keep in mind, even shooting them suppressed, the shorter you go the louder they get. My 223AI has a 22in tube and shooting it suppressed, it's easily hearing safe without plugs and is actually pretty quiet, but shooting my 22-250 at 18in and suppressed, isn't something I'd want to do without plugs on a regular basis. Of course you can't directly compare the two, but they all definitely get louder the shorter they are.
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All my varmint A/R's had 24" or 26" heavy barrels. I decided to make a lighter version for carry. Still used a heavier barrel - but shortened to 20" barrel and much lighter for-end and stock. Wanted to keep the gas system on as long of a cycle as possible. Good compromise, I think. I still greatly favor the long-barreled heavy A/R as it just purrs along as one is following a running varmint while laying down rounds.
Ok so why? Coyote are normally not shot in dense brush but either in fairly open wilderness or in open farm fields and on State land usual fairly open as well. Most people would consider an 18 inch barrel a short barrel on anything that is a bolt gun even in something like a 308 or 243 etc....
So if it is "just because you can" or "just because you want too" why bother asking anyone about it just do it and smile each time you take her out and shoot her.
While your at it why not make it a 12lbs. rifle with a 16.5 inch 1.40 bull barrel with a 10-20 round detachable magazine silencer and a chassis made from compacted graphite. Make sure you call it your light weight brush-gun or light weight mountain rifle! Oh and that 12lbs. is with out optics, silencer or a magazine full of ammo! LOL
If you want something with little recoil in a light short package a rifle in 223 with short 16.5 inch barrels are a dime a dozen and you could have one by tomorrow very easily!
Build what you want to build ignore internet experts myself especialy! It is your money and your rifle. If you want a group hug join a local hunting club were they play more cards and drink more beer than actually hunt!
Outside of the obvious nothing is wrong with your proposed desire it just that there is nothing particularly right with it either unless you have a good reason to go that short. Do you only have one good arm? Is it for a little boy or girl? I could see a pencil thin 20 Practical in a youth stock as a fantastic idea. The why matters though!
I would love to have a derringer for carry in 45-70 my inner 12 year old would love that! My inner 46 year old though knows it is not the smartest thing I have dreamed up! Cheers!
So if it is "just because you can" or "just because you want too" why bother asking anyone about it just do it and smile each time you take her out and shoot her.
While your at it why not make it a 12lbs. rifle with a 16.5 inch 1.40 bull barrel with a 10-20 round detachable magazine silencer and a chassis made from compacted graphite. Make sure you call it your light weight brush-gun or light weight mountain rifle! Oh and that 12lbs. is with out optics, silencer or a magazine full of ammo! LOL
If you want something with little recoil in a light short package a rifle in 223 with short 16.5 inch barrels are a dime a dozen and you could have one by tomorrow very easily!
Build what you want to build ignore internet experts myself especialy! It is your money and your rifle. If you want a group hug join a local hunting club were they play more cards and drink more beer than actually hunt!
Outside of the obvious nothing is wrong with your proposed desire it just that there is nothing particularly right with it either unless you have a good reason to go that short. Do you only have one good arm? Is it for a little boy or girl? I could see a pencil thin 20 Practical in a youth stock as a fantastic idea. The why matters though!
I would love to have a derringer for carry in 45-70 my inner 12 year old would love that! My inner 46 year old though knows it is not the smartest thing I have dreamed up! Cheers!
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"Ok so why? Coyote are normally not shot in dense brush but either in fairly open wilderness or in open farm fields and on State land usual fairly open as well. Most people would consider an 18 inch barrel a short barrel on anything that is a bolt gun even in something like a 308 or 243 etc....
So if it is "just because you can" or "just because you want too" why bother asking anyone about it just do it and smile each time you take her out and shoot her.
While your at it why not make it a 12lbs. rifle with a 16.5 inch 1.40 bull barrel with a 10-20 round detachable magazine silencer and a chassis made from compacted graphite. Make sure you call it your light weight brush-gun or light weight mountain rifle! Oh and that 12lbs. is with out optics, silencer or a magazine full of ammo! LOL
If you want something with little recoil in a light short package a rifle in 223 with short 16.5 inch barrels are a dime a dozen and you could have one by tomorrow very easily!
Build what you want to build ignore internet experts myself especialy! It is your money and your rifle. If you want a group hug join a local hunting club were they play more cards and drink more beer than actually hunt!
Outside of the obvious nothing is wrong with your proposed desire it just that there is nothing particularly right with it either unless you have a good reason to go that short. Do you only have one good arm? Is it for a little boy or girl? I could see a pencil thin 20 Practical in a youth stock as a fantastic idea. The why matters though!
I would love to have a derringer for carry in 45-70 my inner 12 year old would love that! My inner 46 year old though knows it is not the smartest thing I have dreamed up! Cheers!"
Well thanks Mauser 284,
That was a well thought out and a very helpful reply. Did I wrong you in this lifetime or any other? I thought this was a public forum where people could ask questions and share ideas. I didn't know if I needed your approval for any rifle build so as not to receive your ridicule while you pontificate about hunting.
Actually I am 6'1" and over 200lbs. I can and have carried heavy rifles when I was younger and less educated about hunting coyotes. So you can understand, I don't need a sledgehammer to drive a 16 penny nail. Maybe you do, IDGAF. I've humped 782 gear and an M16 for many miles. I can handle heavier gear, I have two good arms. However I don't feel the need to explain to you why I want to go lighter with my gear in the field.
If your above response was your idea of helpful info, please refrain from replying to any of my post.
"Ok so why? Coyote are normally not shot in dense brush but either in fairly open wilderness or in open farm fields and on State land usual fairly open as well. Most people would consider an 18 inch barrel a short barrel on anything that is a bolt gun even in something like a 308 or 243 etc....
So if it is "just because you can" or "just because you want too" why bother asking anyone about it just do it and smile each time you take her out and shoot her.
While your at it why not make it a 12lbs. rifle with a 16.5 inch 1.40 bull barrel with a 10-20 round detachable magazine silencer and a chassis made from compacted graphite. Make sure you call it your light weight brush-gun or light weight mountain rifle! Oh and that 12lbs. is with out optics, silencer or a magazine full of ammo! LOL
If you want something with little recoil in a light short package a rifle in 223 with short 16.5 inch barrels are a dime a dozen and you could have one by tomorrow very easily!
Build what you want to build ignore internet experts myself especialy! It is your money and your rifle. If you want a group hug join a local hunting club were they play more cards and drink more beer than actually hunt!
Outside of the obvious nothing is wrong with your proposed desire it just that there is nothing particularly right with it either unless you have a good reason to go that short. Do you only have one good arm? Is it for a little boy or girl? I could see a pencil thin 20 Practical in a youth stock as a fantastic idea. The why matters though!
I would love to have a derringer for carry in 45-70 my inner 12 year old would love that! My inner 46 year old though knows it is not the smartest thing I have dreamed up! Cheers!"
Well thanks Mauser 284,
That was a well thought out and a very helpful reply. Did I wrong you in this lifetime or any other? I thought this was a public forum where people could ask questions and share ideas. I didn't know if I needed your approval for any rifle build so as not to receive your ridicule while you pontificate about hunting.
Actually I am 6'1" and over 200lbs. I can and have carried heavy rifles when I was younger and less educated about hunting coyotes. So you can understand, I don't need a sledgehammer to drive a 16 penny nail. Maybe you do, IDGAF. I've humped 782 gear and an M16 for many miles. I can handle heavier gear, I have two good arms. However I don't feel the need to explain to you why I want to go lighter with my gear in the field.
If your above response was your idea of helpful info, please refrain from replying to any of my post.
OK I bought a used B&C lightweight stock, 26 or 28 oz, decided on an 18" barrel, I have Talley lightweights and a small 2-8 Leupy scope for this build. I am already anxious for this 20 Practical build, but I have to wait for the gunsmith to get the barrel and chamber it.
If it shoots as well as the other 20 Practical he built for me, I will be beyond happy. The other has a #4 contour, 22" barrel on a trued Rem 700 sitting in a McMillan hunter stock. It worked very well on the coyotes I hunted out west. This new build should be more maneuverable with my suppressor for the called in coyotes that I generally shoot between 50-150 yards.
If it shoots as well as the other 20 Practical he built for me, I will be beyond happy. The other has a #4 contour, 22" barrel on a trued Rem 700 sitting in a McMillan hunter stock. It worked very well on the coyotes I hunted out west. This new build should be more maneuverable with my suppressor for the called in coyotes that I generally shoot between 50-150 yards.
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