shooting out to 2000 yards with a 300 win mag

[lal357]

gun:
rem.700 action
bartlien 26" barrel
20 moa base
19 mils of adjustment in scope
can add up to 40 moa more in rings
wanting to take a 300 win mag out to 2000 - 2400 yards (i know the later will be a stretch). looking at berger 215 gr. pills .

question 1 im thinking about using either a 600 zero with the scope turret dailed down does this sound good or should zero at 1000 (90 % of my shooting done here)

 

[Depart123]

gun:
rem.700 action
bartlien 26" barrel
20 moa base
19 mils of adjustment in scope
can add up to 40 moa more in rings
wanting to take a 300 win mag out to 2000 - 2400 yards (i know the later will be a stretch). looking at berger 215 gr. pills .

question 1 im thinking about using either a 600 zero with the scope turret dailed down does this sound good or should zero at 1000 (90 % of my shooting done here)

It is irrelevent what your zero is. The total amount of adjustment available vs. the amount needed is exactly the same for a given setup.

All you will be doing is changing the number designation of the clicks. You can dial up to 600 and call that "0" or call it "5 mils". The number of clicks needed will be identical.

 

[lal357]

For me my zero is 1000 yards right now thats with the scope turret bottomed out so i have full adjustment up im pretty sure i will run out of scope adjustment and will have to rely on mil/hash marks to make up the rest but i wanted to get the most i can

 

[lal357]

I undersrand what your saying for instance i shot at 1000 dead today and went to 700 had hold 2 mil down to ring the steel

 

[Depart123]

With that gun your 1000 yard dope is about 8 mils. You have 17.4 mils in the base and rings (60 moa total), so you are dialing down 9.4 mils from optical center to zero at 1000 yards. You only have 19 mils adjustment in your scope. That does indeed leave you at the very bottom of your adjustment range.

If you use all the 60 moa that you have available in your mounts, then 600yds isn't going to be an option.

 

[lal357]

With that gun your 1000 yard dope is about 8 mils. You have 17.4 mils in the base and rings (60 moa total), so you are dialing down 9.4 mils from optical center to zero at 1000 yards. You only have 19 mils adjustment in your scope. That does indeed leave you at the very bottom of your adjustment range.

If you use all the 60 moa that you have available in your mounts, then 600yds isn't going to be an option.

i swapped from a first focal plane to a second focal plane scope this way i can turn the magnification down to about 12.5 power and get 600 or under depending on power setting

 

[Delfuego]

You should zero at 100y.

 

[Mr.Knowit all]

You should zero at 100y.

I agree. With a 100 yd zero I can min. the human factor and wind. You don't have enough elevation in your scope to shoot that far. Run the numbers and see how fast that bullet drops after 1500 yards. It falls out of the sky. At my altitude (5,000ft) from 1800 to 1950 yds the round falls approx. 200 inches in the 150 yards. I would run a reasonable zero and look into an adjustable base or some other tool to give you more elevation. JMO

 

[lal357]

1000 yard zero is working fine using a 2ff scope i am able to dial down and use my mil/hash marks to shoot closer . ran a test at 600 2 weeks ago then doing it this way then moved to 1000 yard line and aimed dead on . you just have to know your gun and load ( a good kestrel chrono and ballistic program )dont hurt either

 

[ttfreestyle]

100 yard zero camp here as well, in my opinion you won’t have a good no wind zero at 1000. Just my .02

 

[Calvin Menard]

What is your speed, elevation, and what ballistic solver are you using?

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I have shot the 215 to 2000yds, out of a 300 wsm. Muzzle velocity 2875, 100 yd zero, 75 moa to 2k.

 

[lal357]

What is your speed, elevation, and what ballistic solver are you using?

speed 2785 fps, elevation 262', i use strelok pro and shooter. temp last time i shot was 97 degrees with 78% humidity with a kestrel 5700 w/ab

 

[D.Stone]

It can be done. 3 of those little marks are from my 300WM at 2112 yards, including the oblong one that bounced in.

2 out of 5 in match conditions is pretty good for this game.

 

[Geno C]

I have a 10.5moa hold under for my 100 yards zero with my atacr bottomed out. That gives me 126moa of dial plus the 10.5 before I have to hold over.

I like the 100 yards zero for the same reasons most others do. It increases the chances or an accurate zero. A little out of wind can push your zero off the farther you are out. Then you’re starting with bad data and chasing your tail thinking your wind calls are all off when it’s actually a zero that’s off

 

[lal357]

Update swapped out the scope to a gen 1 razor hd and hot the chance to stretch the legs out ended up hitting steel at 1954 yards mirage was so bad that me and a spotter could see hits past that so i stopped no need to waste bullets . Going to have to change out my base so i can have more dial before i need to go to reticle probably 50 or 60 moa base (20 moa on it now ) .

 

[ShaunBrady]

Update swapped out the scope to a gen 1 razor hd

I like those scopes for budget ELR. Tons of travel, a useful reticle, and decent glass for the price. The 35mm tube limits ring and 1 piece base options. From your first post, it sounds like you're aware of the Burris adjustable rings. I'm using the PEPR mount with the gen 1 Razors on a couple of my chassis guns that have 20 or 30 moa rails. With others, I've used 50 or 60 moa custom rails by Murphy Precision.

 

[Delfuego]

I agree that the Razor gen1 is great for ELR. Built like a tank, lots of travel and not expensive. I run one on my 22lr, can get 400y on a 20moa base!

 

[Tempest]

Just for FYI. When I shot 2K, I needed 75 MOA from 100 yard zero. Obviously corrected for elevation, temp, pressure etc and the velocity.

I always like a 100 yard zero.

 

[Siko12]

A 300 WM at 2K is a paper shooter, not much more. Not much kinetic energy left I'd say but looks like fun.