Shooting cannallured bullets out to 600 yds ?

[Road_Clam]

Hey folks,
Has anyone experimented with target shooting cannalured projectiles out to 600 yds ? I've shot .30 cal bullets from my M1a out to 300 yds and noticed no measurable difference between cannalured and regular match FMJBT's. I was thinking about trying some 6mm 86 gr Nosler E-tip bullets at 600 and would like your thoughts.

 

[Berger.Fan222]

Hey folks,
Has anyone experimented with target shooting cannalured projectiles out to 600 yds ? I've shot .30 cal bullets from my M1a out to 300 yds and noticed no measurable difference between cannalured and regular match FMJBT's. I was thinking about trying some 6mm 86 gr Nosler E-tip bullets at 600 and would like your thoughts.

I didn't see a bullet of that description on Nosler's site, but I am familiar with E-Tips in general.

It's not the cannelure groove that's gonna hurt you, it's the bad boat tail design and the shoulder (poor fit) between the plastic tip and the copper ogive. The BCs on these bullets are much lower than advertised. Other bullet brands (Hornady, Barnes) have cannelures with nothing but a small drop in BC. But the Nosler E-Tips are the worst case I know of.

I see Nosler is advertising a BC of 0.305 for a 55 grain .224 bullet. That's just crazy. There is no chance it is over .250 and might not even be above 0.200 in most rifles.

If you gotta shoot solid copper (or lead free) go with Hornady or Barnes. If you can shoot jacketed lead, they are almost always the best option for long range except for some boutique high end machined niche bullets (expensive).

 

[Road_Clam]

Here's the projectiles I am contemplating trying :

http://www.shootersproshop.com/shoo...ain-e-tip-banded-bullets-blem-50ct-13520.html

 

[bdale]

Berger.fan222 , sorry i should have clarified i am wanting to try 6mm nosler 87 gr cannaluer bullets




Here's the projectiles I am contemplating trying :

http://www.shootersproshop.com/shoo...ain-e-tip-banded-bullets-blem-50ct-13520.html

Don't think that's a cannelure, think it's a band that has to do with controlled expansion

 

[hunter243sgk]

That's a new one to me I thought they just made it in the 90g pills.

 

[Berger.Fan222]

Don't think that's a cannelure, think it's a band that has to do with controlled expansion

I don't think that is the purpose on the solid copper Nosler E-Tips. I think it is a crimping groove, which also gets called a cannelure sometimes.

In the Barnes bullets, their grooves are to reduce friction, pressure, and fouling, and I have had great success with their bullets since they added the grooves. E-tips, not so much.

Given the marginal performance and high drag of the E-Tips in the catalog, I'm not sure I'd be enthusiastic about the uncataloged blemished bullets that don't even have a listed BC.

You can shoot low BC bullets at 600 yards and learn a lot about reading the wind in the process, but I think this is better suited to .223s with long barrel life. I would not want to burn up the barrel life on a 6mm doing it.

 

[Road_Clam]

That's a new one to me I thought they just made it in the 90g pills.

Maybe the advertised 87 gr Nosler blems were supposed to be 90 gr and that's why they are "blems" ??

 

[hunter243sgk]

Maybe the advertised 87 gr Nosler blems were supposed to be 90 gr and that's why they are "blems" ??

That's very possible. I have never tried them but have heard good about them.

 

[Shynloco]

I don't think that is the purpose on the solid copper Nosler E-Tips. I think it is a crimping groove, which also gets called a cannelure sometimes.

I'll have to disagree with you on being a cannelure feature on that bullet. I believe BDale is right. Read the Nosler explanation of design. In all my years, I've never seen a Cannelure like that, but have seen it in the design for expansion purposes, but the band thinner.

Alex