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F-TR obssessed shooting junkie
With the F class nationals coming up half way across the planet from those of us in the east I've had someone ask me about how to ship your ammo out legally. So I looked into it and made a call or two and got some answers. (for those who haven't seen any of my posts on the subject, Hazmat/dangerous goods and waste shipping is what I do for a living)
This is for loaded ammo, not powder or primers
Via UPS:
In order to ship UPS:
- Must ship GROUND
- Must be less than <50 CAL (or 8 gauge)
- <66 LBS and must be secured in the package (no rolling around)
- Must be marked with the LTD Qty label or with the ORM-D Cartridges Small Arms
- You don't need a contract and you don't need a training cert.
- You must have a driver pick up, or you must go to the distribution center. You can't drop it off at their satellite locations (like the ones in Office Max or Staples)
Some of you may remember that a yr or so ago the DOT did away with the ORM-D label; well, they changed their mind(sort of). They've extended it's use for another few yrs (2020) for domestic ground shipments (it's not allowed for air though).
That's probably the best option for most of you.
To ship FedEx Ground (and that's GROUND not AIR, you can't do this Air)
The same rules above, but
-You must go to the FedEx website and print a ground label and schedule a pickup. You cannot deliver it to their offices.
Hope this helps.
[edit] one other thing, when it comes to shipping hazmat with UPS or in particular FedEx, it is generally a good idea to do whatever they ask, (even if it doesn't make sense)
The actual packaging requirements come from 49CFR173.63(b) and (b)(2) and reads as follows:
(b) Limited quantities of Cartridges, small arms(my emphasis), Cartridges, power device, Cartridges for tools, blank, and Cases, cartridge, empty with primer. (1)(i) Cartridges, small arms, Cartridges, power device (used to project fastening devices), Cartridges for tools, blank, and Cases, cartridge, empty with primer that have been classed as Division 1.4S explosive may be offered for transportation and transported as limited quantities when packaged in accordance with paragraph (b)(2) of this section. Packages containing such articles may be marked with either the marking prescribed in §172.315(a) or (b) of this subchapter and offered for transportation and transported by any mode. ......
(2) Packaging for Cartridges, small arms, Cartridges for tools, blank, Cases, cartridge empty with primer, and eligible Cartridges, power device as limited quantity or ORM-D material must be as follows:
(i) Ammunition must be packed in inside boxes, or in partitions that fit snugly in the outside packaging, or in metal clips;
(ii) Primers must be protected from accidental initiation;
(iii) Inside boxes, partitions or metal clips must be packed in securely-closed strong outside packagings;
(iv) Maximum gross weight is limited to 30 kg (66 pounds) per package; and
(v) Cartridges for tools, blank, Cartridges, power devices which are used to project fastening devices, Cases, cartridge, empty with primer, and 22 caliber rim-fire cartridges may be packaged loose in strong outside packagings.
PSS (one last edit) Any time you are shipping hazmat you have to check with your intended carrier to see that they will accept the package, and if they have any requirements. There is no requirement that any carrier accept freight from anyone. They own the equipment, they have the right to say no (this is much more an issue with air carriers). So in this case checking with UPS or FedEx is the right thing to do before you ship.
One other thing I've learned shipping stuff from all over the US is that local offices sometimes have a different understanding of the regulations than what is written in the DOT regs or what is written in their corporate requirements. If you have to get the shipment out today to get it delivered on time, trust me, that's when you'll get someone who doesn't want your package. Make sure you have time.
This is for loaded ammo, not powder or primers
Via UPS:
In order to ship UPS:
- Must ship GROUND
- Must be less than <50 CAL (or 8 gauge)
- <66 LBS and must be secured in the package (no rolling around)
- Must be marked with the LTD Qty label or with the ORM-D Cartridges Small Arms
- You don't need a contract and you don't need a training cert.
- You must have a driver pick up, or you must go to the distribution center. You can't drop it off at their satellite locations (like the ones in Office Max or Staples)
Some of you may remember that a yr or so ago the DOT did away with the ORM-D label; well, they changed their mind(sort of). They've extended it's use for another few yrs (2020) for domestic ground shipments (it's not allowed for air though).
That's probably the best option for most of you.
To ship FedEx Ground (and that's GROUND not AIR, you can't do this Air)
The same rules above, but
-You must go to the FedEx website and print a ground label and schedule a pickup. You cannot deliver it to their offices.
Hope this helps.
[edit] one other thing, when it comes to shipping hazmat with UPS or in particular FedEx, it is generally a good idea to do whatever they ask, (even if it doesn't make sense)
The actual packaging requirements come from 49CFR173.63(b) and (b)(2) and reads as follows:
(b) Limited quantities of Cartridges, small arms(my emphasis), Cartridges, power device, Cartridges for tools, blank, and Cases, cartridge, empty with primer. (1)(i) Cartridges, small arms, Cartridges, power device (used to project fastening devices), Cartridges for tools, blank, and Cases, cartridge, empty with primer that have been classed as Division 1.4S explosive may be offered for transportation and transported as limited quantities when packaged in accordance with paragraph (b)(2) of this section. Packages containing such articles may be marked with either the marking prescribed in §172.315(a) or (b) of this subchapter and offered for transportation and transported by any mode. ......
(2) Packaging for Cartridges, small arms, Cartridges for tools, blank, Cases, cartridge empty with primer, and eligible Cartridges, power device as limited quantity or ORM-D material must be as follows:
(i) Ammunition must be packed in inside boxes, or in partitions that fit snugly in the outside packaging, or in metal clips;
(ii) Primers must be protected from accidental initiation;
(iii) Inside boxes, partitions or metal clips must be packed in securely-closed strong outside packagings;
(iv) Maximum gross weight is limited to 30 kg (66 pounds) per package; and
(v) Cartridges for tools, blank, Cartridges, power devices which are used to project fastening devices, Cases, cartridge, empty with primer, and 22 caliber rim-fire cartridges may be packaged loose in strong outside packagings.
PSS (one last edit) Any time you are shipping hazmat you have to check with your intended carrier to see that they will accept the package, and if they have any requirements. There is no requirement that any carrier accept freight from anyone. They own the equipment, they have the right to say no (this is much more an issue with air carriers). So in this case checking with UPS or FedEx is the right thing to do before you ship.
One other thing I've learned shipping stuff from all over the US is that local offices sometimes have a different understanding of the regulations than what is written in the DOT regs or what is written in their corporate requirements. If you have to get the shipment out today to get it delivered on time, trust me, that's when you'll get someone who doesn't want your package. Make sure you have time.
