Shaw barrels?

[justinp61]

Is this normal? The chatter marks. I have some scrubbing to do as the copper fouling starts about 6" from the chamber.

 

[johara1]

You get what you pay for..... jim

 

[watercam]

How does it shoot? The ulitimate criteria.

 

[justinp61]

It shot well for about 45 rounds and then accuracy started falling off. It's copper fouled pretty bad from about 6" to 14" from the muzzle. Working on that now.

This barrel only has 65 or so rounds through it and was broke in following Shaw's break in procedure. A 24" factory contour on a Savage mdl 16, deer rifle.

 

[urbanrifleman]

You get what you pay for..... jim

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water there fella...

 

[urbanrifleman]

It shot well for about 45 rounds and then accuracy started falling off. It's copper fouled pretty bad from about 6" to 14" from the muzzle. Working on that now.

This barrel only has 65 or so rounds through it and was broke in following Shaw's break in procedure. A 24" factory contour on a Savage mdl 16, deer rifle.View attachment 1215781View attachment 1215782View attachment 1215783

I would shoot 10 Tubb TMS bullets through that bad boy.

My buddy has a Shaw 7-08 barrel and it shoots plenty good enough to shoot a deer in the eye. It shot about 3/4" minute right out of the box.

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

Don't remove all the copper, just clean when the groups start to open up. The barrel may just need a couple hundred rounds to break in. Shilen says one brush pass for each shot during "break in".

 

[justinp61]

Don't remove all the copper, just clean when the groups start to open up. The barrel may just need a couple hundred rounds to break in. Shilen says one brush pass for each shot during "break in".

Can you explain this?

I'll check into Tubbs.

Thanks guys.

 

[ballisticxlr]

Good heavens. That's 5 miles of washboard road right there. With a fouling monster like that, Tubb's sandpaper bullets would be my 2nd stop. Return for refund would be my first. E.R. Shaw... guess that means erratically rifled.

 

[Lostcreek]

Thats a real turd

 

[urbanrifleman]

I would shoot 10 Tubb TMS bullets through that bad b

Can you explain this?

I'll check into Tubbs.

Thanks guys.

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How did it shoot?

 

[boltfluter]

Just say "no" to Shaw barrels. You really do get what you pay for!

Paul

 

[johara1]

The only guy that makes out is the smith , he will get paid again..... jim

 

[johara1]

Don't throw the baby out with the bath water there fella...

I saw more junk than good from Shaw, you must have a lot of rounds down it to get the ruffles off by looking at the rounding of the corners of the lands.... jim

 

[msinc]

I agree, the chattered tooling marks may not look good.....but I have two expensive "high-end" barrels right now that have zero flaws in the bore. What definitely appears to be a perfect rifling/machining/lapping job and yet they copper up way worse than this one and they might shoot a 2 1/2" group {"if I do my part"} I don't know or use Shaw barrels and I am not in any way endorsing them, just saying the ball is the target...don't loose sight of the ball.
Maybe another way of saying it: I'd rather have this one shooting 3/4" than the $750 plus two I have!!!!

 

[Uncle Grinch]

I would definitely call Shaw and see what they have to say. You never know...

 

[Txhillbilly]

Shaw and Savage must share the same button's to rifle their barrel's.
The funny thing is I've had a couple Shaw barrel's that were some of the best shooting barrel's I have ever had, and they were very consistent doing it.

Now, I'm not saying that Shaw barrel's will ever rate with the best, but sometimes you get more than your moneys worth from them.

 

[urbanrifleman]

I saw more junk than good from Shaw, you must have a lot of rounds down it to get the ruffles off by looking at the rounding of the corners of the lands.... jim

No. I broke it in with Tubb bullets and shot the first set of groups then cleaned it.

Here it is straight from the factory.

My point is that not all people are buying benchrest barrels, and to judge "junk" from the appearance and perfrmance of machine cut premium barrels is really wrong. I do not think Shaw advertises his barrels as being "match barrels". I think the US government has made a lot of barrels that don't look much different than the Shaw, and they did their job just fine. Like I said before my friend has a Shaw and it shoots plenty good enough to shoot deer.

 

[Texas10]

My Shaw barrel in 6.5 CM was a copper mine. It shot terrific when clean, but accuracy went south as it coppered up, and it did that very quickly. They make a decent hunting rifle, but not so much if shooting groups in targets. Use it for what it was designed for and you'll be quite satisfied.

 

[johara1]

No. I broke it in with Tubb bullets and shot the first set of groups then cleaned it.

Here it is straight from the factory.

My point is that not all people are buying benchrest barrels, and to judge "junk" from the appearance and perfrmance of machine cut premium barrels is really wrong. I do not think Shaw advertises his barrels as being "match barrels". I think the US government has made a lot of barrels that don't look much different than the Shaw, and they did their job just fine. Like I said before my friend has a Shaw and it shoots plenty good enough to shoot deer.

So tell me how they get away saying they are match barrels? You run that Tube stuff through it and it smoothed it up, from the rounding of the lands it will be a good hunting gun not a match barrel.... jim