"Set Trigger" Canjar - Jard - ?? Others?

[jds holler]

Another post here concerning safety and unwanted discharge got me to thinking about "set triggers". I've got one on my old BP Hawkin rifle, and it is sweet. One of my buds had what I think was a Canjar on an old Savage 110 from way back when. It operated perfectly and was the bomb.

With all the time spent as well as money for quality, safe replacements, I was wondering if a set trigger might be a safe or possibly less expensive alternative. Do they have a down-side that I'm not aware of such as slow lock time, or trigger shock. -- safety concerns??

I thought that maybe the mechanics of a set trigger might be an easier and safer way to achieve light pull when desired, rather than a trigger that always has light pull and must endure bold close, safety release, difficult conditions, etc. Many of our rifles are used "Off Bench" at times, and we sometimes are better off with a three pound pull. I think the choice would be nice.

I'd like to here from anyone with experience and opinions on the subject. jd

 

[Bbear]

I haven't used this rifle for much more than hearing it go off, but, I have a double-set trigger on a Newton Rifle that I really enjoy. Regular pull is about 4 1/2 lbs, set is under one pound. I'm guessing the price of the current crop of triggers and the fact that they are mostly adjustable, has put the 'done' on single and double-set triggers.

edit to add: Looking on Brownells, I see several single-set triggers for AR-style rifles and only one (and that for a Mauser) for a bolt gun. And, that one is out of stock.

 

[hpshooter]

" a Canjar on an old Savage 110 from way back when. It operated perfectly and was the bomb. "

I have that trigger on a 110 savage 4X4 in ,223. I have shoot 195 and 198 with it at our club F class matches, never a 200 with it. In my experience it shoots a "rounder" 10 shot group (1.5" @300 best) without using the set trigger feature.

There was discussion, perhaps here, at one time offering the theory that the tripping of the set feature may set up a vibration that is not conducive to accuracy. My knowledge base is not deep enough to know if this is supported by experimentation or just speculation.

Like the trigger and the ground hogs don't seem to know if the rifle experienced any spurious vibration prior to ignition or not.

 

[jds holler]

I'm just getting back to this thread that I started a day ago. (I work too much)

I frankly expected a lot more response, but I guess that set triggers must be rare as hen's teeth.

I admit that I was predisposed to thinking that this type of trigger might serve a valuable purpose because I believe that there are a lot of guys running around hunting with rifles with triggers that have been "adjusted" into the danger zone. Everybody wants a feather-light trigger pull, but few want to spend three hundred bucks to get it.

I'll admit to being guilty of using an unsafe rifle in my quest, and have indeed scared myself. There was no harm done, and I'll count it as cheap education.

I am a fan of a 3ish pound hunting trigger, but I'd like to shoot a couple of those rifles from my bench and feel that the trigger pull isn't a negative to my groups.

I'd still like to hear from more folks who have real "set trigger" experience. jd

 

[Rick in Oregon]

I have two Canjar single set triggers, one on a Ruger No.1V the other on a Sako Vixen. One thing I've learned over the years with these, is that they must be closely watched for coming out of adjustment. The screw adjustment is very finite and should be coated with clear nail polish after initial adjusting/setting. Of course they can be used 'unset' for the usual 3lb. pull.

But in the rat patch, they are stellar with about a 4oz let-off. I don't shoot competition, but for bench varminting they are a perfect match.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

good luck on anything canjar unless you find it used. they have been out of business for what, 28yrs now? theres a member on this board, whom I wont name, that owns a ton of canjar parts and I believe the right to manufacture them- but hes busy with other projects right now.

 

[HTSmith]

What about a 2 Stage trigger? Another thought is a Jewell HVR--the "A" spring goes from 8 oz to 56 oz and you can adjust it without removing anything. Just some thoughts.

 

[Ggmac]

I've got a few can jars and used one in the 70s at Williamsport. They are ok but the set just in motion the release = more time to move .
I was just playing around recovering from the flu and fitted a old German set trigger set up to a savage 110 style . It worked and had enough kick to trip the sear ( side bolt release ) . It was a temporary hodgepodge of pieces but it worked and could safely be set to ounces . Looked funky and didn't want to permanently modify either the rifle or set trigger. So back to each rifle the parts went