Serial Killers

[mytwo60]

Interesting article.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/03/160322-prairie-dogs-squirrels-murders-animals-killers/

 

[snert]

Fascinating how "science" uses words like "murder" which was once understood to mean the killing of a human, and intrinsic to the idea was the understanding that humans were (are) made in the image of God and above/highest in the created order, and of infinite value because of that image. Now we use the words to describe one animal killing another.

I think I will just stick with killing groundhogs, not murdering them...

 

[Prairiedogger]

They are also cannibals. But don't tell those researcher's. He might banish the poor creatures.

 

[dedogs]

I find it odd that the researchers studied these prairie dogs for 4 years before they observed this "murdering" behavior.
dedogs

 

[hogpatrol]

And the end result of this "study" is what? Something native Americans and hunters probably already knew for the last couple hundred years. SMH.

 

[spclark]

Saw this this morning:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/25/us/wyoming-wolf-pack-elk-slaughter/index.html

Talking amongst locals here seems something similar's happening to whitetail numbers in northern part of WI.

 

[1shot]

Oh for f***s sake! I was born, raised and live on the same piece of ground that my grandparents had. (I'll use a generic term here) The downing of an animal was for one of three reasons, and in order if importance.
1. Putting meat on the table.
2. Eliminating animals that cause a loss in revenue to the operation of the farm.
3. Putting an injured animal down to stop the suffering. Refer to # 1 and 2
A. On the average, one G-hog is responsible for over $50.00 in a farmers income.
B. 4-6 squirrels make a meal as do rabbits.
C. 1-2 deer feed the family for a year and some left to give to charitable organizations for people that can't get a hot meal otherwise.
D. The next time you refer to farmers as dirt poor or stupid, don't do it with your mouth full!
This is directed at no one in particular, just coining an old phrase, but true none the less.
Lloyd

 

[dedogs]

1shot, Not sure what your point is. dedogs

 

[jds holler]

These social rodents, native to Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, and Montana, ruthlessly bite and thrash Wyoming ground squirrels to death, leaving their bloody bodies to rot, a new study says.

Dang, these guys make a PD sound even worse than a kid with a .22. jd

 

[1shot]

1shot, Not sure what your point is. dedogs

dedogs,
My point is rural people have been taking animal lives since time began it is just now that it's being called "murder". Just struck a wrong note with me.
Rant off,
Lloyd

 

[TheOtherZilla]

dedogs,
My point is rural people have been taking animal lives since time began it is just now that it's being called "murder". Just struck a wrong note with me.
Rant off,
Lloyd

I am sure the author is referring to the Pdawgs as the murderers.. That's what I got out of it..

 

[dedogs]

dedogs,
My point is rural people have been taking animal lives since time began it is just now that it's being called "murder". Just struck a wrong note with me.
Rant off,
Lloyd

Lloyd, I'm not trying to be obtuse (or pick a fight) but my take on the article was that PRAIRIE DOGS were observed killing GROUND SQUIRRELS. I didn't see any mention of PEOPLE killing anything. I agree that the word "murder" should not have been used in this context. It's just like when the liberal press re-wrote the definition of "bully" a couple of years ago. When I was growing up a bully was some mean SOB in school who was either big for his age or had flunked a grade or two and picked on, both physically and verbally some kid who was smaller than himself. Now all you have to do to be a bully is disagree with someone on the internet. It never ends. JMO, dedogs

 

[bobinpa]

So....... this guy has been at it for 43 years and this is the most outrageous thing he has witnessed?????? And he had a grant to fund it??????

“In my 43 years of research, this is perhaps the most provocative, puzzling, and far-reaching discovery I’ve ever made,” says study co-author John Hoogland of the University of Maryland Center of Environmental Sciences.

Hopefully he retires soon so somebody can use his grant money to discover something worthwhile

 

[bobinpa]

Oh for f***s sake! I was born, raised and live on the same piece of ground that my grandparents had. (I'll use a generic term here) The downing of an animal was for one of three reasons, and in order if importance.
1. Putting meat on the table.
2. Eliminating animals that cause a loss in revenue to the operation of the farm.
3. Putting an injured animal down to stop the suffering. Refer to # 1 and 2
A. On the average, one G-hog is responsible for over $50.00 in a farmers income.
B. 4-6 squirrels make a meal as do rabbits.
C. 1-2 deer feed the family for a year and some left to give to charitable organizations for people that can't get a hot meal otherwise.
D. The next time you refer to farmers as dirt poor or stupid, don't do it with your mouth full!
This is directed at no one in particular, just coining an old phrase, but true none the less.
Lloyd

I took it that the p-dogs are killing the ground squirrels just to eliminate them, not to eat them. Kinda like a wildlife turf war...... I feel like joining forces with the ground squirrels and killing some p-dogs

 

[1shot]

After re-reading it, I see all of your point. I read it quickly, and the response was a knee jerk reaction. dedogs and bobinpa thanks for prompting me to re-read the big picture. As a side note, when I read "animal murders" That is what flipped my switch. I grow weary of people thinking their meat come from the grocery store. My apologies to anyone that took offense.
Lloyd

 

[bobinpa]

After re-reading it, I see all of your point. I read it quickly, and the response was a knee jerk reaction. dedogs and bobinpa thanks for prompting me to re-read the big picture. As a side note, when I read "animal murders" That is what flipped my switch. I grow weary of people thinking their meat come from the grocery store. My apologies to anyone that took offense.
Lloyd

No offense taken here. I feel the same as you when it comes to people that think their meat comes from the grocery store........ I just had a feeling that you misread it. Have a Happy Easter.

 

[dedogs]

Lloyd, What bob said.

 

[CaptainMal]

All I better get out West and do some punishment on those "bad guys and gals".

It would be the thing to do.

 

[370bc]

Interesting article.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/03/160322-prairie-dogs-squirrels-murders-animals-killers/

As a critic of religions, I find that their trick of language is ever present. As in 'Islam is a religion of peace'. Yes, it is. But only if everyone is a slave to it. The snowflake students in universities today that need their 'safe space' is another example of tricks of language. Very interesting. Very useful in pushing an agenda where the other side is not aware of all of the implications that words and phrases means.
I personally like the term 'harvesting' when talking about slaughtering a cow or a pig.
I also like the term 'blasting' as I did this am to a coyote that was 225 yards away with my 243 & 88 bergers.

 

[370bc]

Oh for f***s sake! I was born, raised and live on the same piece of ground that my grandparents had. (I'll use a generic term here) The downing of an animal was for one of three reasons, and in order if importance.
1. Putting meat on the table.
2. Eliminating animals that cause a loss in revenue to the operation of the farm.
3. Putting an injured animal down to stop the suffering. Refer to # 1 and 2
A. On the average, one G-hog is responsible for over $50.00 in a farmers income.
B. 4-6 squirrels make a meal as do rabbits.
C. 1-2 deer feed the family for a year and some left to give to charitable organizations for people that can't get a hot meal otherwise.
D. The next time you refer to farmers as dirt poor or stupid, don't do it with your mouth full!
This is directed at no one in particular, just coining an old phrase, but true none the less.
Lloyd

I listened to this podcast titled 'meat without misery.' I would like opinions on it. The money spent to produce a cow is detailed out in the water it takes, food it needs, etc. compared to a new evolution of thinking outside the box about eating meat. It pushed my intuitions around a bit.
http://tinyurl.com/jbpgzfd