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Hey all. I'm considering a project to be built on a short Remington action. This is the parent rifle,the donor if you will.
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What I want to do is rebarrel and true up this old girl ,from 22/250 to something in the way of a combination round. Suitable for deer/antelope and woodchucks as well. I want to keep the bolt face as is,so I'm limited there. I've done the 6mm thing to death so the 243/6mm Rem aren't in the running. .27, .284, or .30 would be great. Accurate to 600 yds. Wildcats welcome. Any sugestions?
 
How about a 6.5X47 Lapua?? Lots of great 6.5mm bullets and plenty of data on this site for loads. XM3HUNTER has been getting great results with this cartridge in competition. Search for his posts.
 
Just a thought, what about leaving it a 22-250 but change the tube to a faster twist and shoot the heavier bullets? just an idea mind you. 25 Souper, 260 the list is endless of possibilities and the hardest choice to make. Good luck! Later,

Kirk
 
I suggested the 6.5 X47 because the case length is relatively short which might allow the heavier bullets to be seated out in the neck for more case capacity and still feed through the magazine of a hunting gun. Otherwise, the 260, 6.5X55, etc are all great rounds as well.
 
Yep, you could do a lot worse than the Lapua. A tackdriver cartridge.

Can't say I'd be going bigger than 6.5cal if it's going to be used on varmints at times.

Chris-NZ
 
if you want a combo varmint / deer cartridge and looking away from the 243, look at the 25-08, very close to the 25.06, less powder, very accurate and bullet weight selection is good.

Bob
 
Cool stuff. I have an heirloom 25/06 here that is a real sweetie. It too is a 700 Remington. The 250/3000 IMP has crossed my mind. How exactly does it compare to the .25/08? I'm not familiar with that round,but it sounds like a winner to me. Correct me if I'm wrong,(and I likely am) isn't the .30 TC a 300 Sav Imp with a longer neck? I have often considered the 250/3000 as a parent cartridge for a short action build of some sort. Don't get me wrong,I am a 22/250 fan from way back. It is in my mind the ruler by which woodchuck rounds are measured. But,if I could get a real hummer of a mid-bore,short action round rigged up in this rifle,I would be all set. I'm figuring on taking my daughter to Wyoming for Pronghorn in 2011 or 2012. I plan to carry the 700 25/06. I would love to have something in a short action hole driller for her to use to take her lope'. The weight of the rig isn't a factor,as dear old dad will be doing the toting. The .25/08 or 250/3000 IMP are good cantidates for the job. I had a 7/08 in a Remington a while back. It didn't set my drawers on fire. Good round,but it needed to be shortened and improved in my mind.
 
www.accuratereloading.com has data on the 250 Ackley and the 25-06 for bullet weights of 75-100 grains( both with 26 inch bbl ).
 
I think that .260 Rem. would serve you well as a general purpose long range cartridge. The 6.5x47 L is good too but everything about it is more expensive. I've got both and for your uses they are basically equivalent otherwise.
 
I'd agree with nhm16, add 7mm-08 Rem and possibly 6.5mm Hornady Creedmoor. Despite what many say there is nothing ballistically between .260, 6.5mm HC and 6.5X47L, and unless you're into a benchrest quality rifle, nothing accuracy-wise either. All are good cartridges, light recoiling, and ballistically efficient.

The big pro for 6.5X47L is the quality of the out of the box Lapua brass, altho' the con there is its price. However ..... remember, this case takes a small rifle primer and you will likely crater them / suffer 'blanking' with your Remy 700 firing pin / bolt at pressures and MVs below those available in a rifle built on a custom action. You can have this sorted, but it's an additional expense.

.260 Rem and 7mm-08 Rem downsides are brass, but you can use Lapua .243W necked up or .308W necked down, and they have the large primer so no problems there. (The brass is also cheaper than 6.5X47L even when from Lapua.)

If you go down the .260 Rem route, you need to think about bullets and throats before the build. The factory version is a bit of a compromise. There's a top gunsmith over here in the UK who builds very expensive sporting rifles and favours this cartridge. He goes for a very short throat to suit the 100gn Noslers - Ballistic Tip for varmints, Partition for deer, the latter developed especially for this cartridge. He says the Partition will take a Scottish Highlands red deer stag cleanly, although these are not as large and heavy as the European equivalents.

In the sevens, 7mm-08 is a fine multi-purpose cartridge with excellent long-range ballistics. You could also go for the 6.5-284 or its parent .284 Winchester, necking Lapua 6.5-284 Norma brass up for the latter if desired, or using Winchester with a bit of sorting / preparation. 6.5-284 has barrel life issues though, and while the .284 Win is better, it's obviously going to be shorter than with 7mm-08 Rem given the larger case and powder charges.

In the Rem short action, and with varmint shooting in mind, both versions of the 284 need to be fairly short-throated to suit the magazine led 2.9" or thereabouts maximum COAL, also to suit 100-120gn varmint bullets. That means the 6.5-284 Winchester (not Norma) version of the former, and more or less standard .284 Win for the latter, not a custom long-throated version designed for heavy bullets in a long action. So chambered, heavy deer or target bullets have to be seated very deeply, but the .284 Win works very efficiently with 140s and 150s if they're man enough for your deer hunting.

Laurie,
York, England
 
The 25/284 would be a viable contender with what you have.....
The 100 and 115 Ballistic tips along with the 115 Berger VLD's are great bullets in it...
 
7-08AI, more boiler room then a standard 7-08, plenty of muscle for larger game like deer and antelope. It's not so big that it will too much for varmints, and you will have a good selection of high BC bullets if the ranges get long. You can run cheap .308 Win brass, which is very good with a bit of prep and sorting. You can even run cheap factory ammo if the need arises, not so with many of the other suggestions.

As for the .30T/C, I believe you are right, as it appears to be very similar to the .300 Savage. One of the issues with the .30T/C is the factory rounds are loaded with powder not yet available to reloaders, so you will never match factory velocities with handloads. Unless they release the powder used and load data.
 
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Howdy !

A .250 Savage set-up to shoot bullets up to 100gr oughta' do it.

For up-to-date brass, you could try the new .22-250 brass w/ small primer pocket; and expand necks up to .25 calibre. Standard .250Savage brass can be had.

75gr HP Sierra and 75gr "V"-Max would be superb on "soybeanus digestus"; and the like.

Best of luck in your endeavors !

Regards,
357Mag
 
Hey thanks for all the replies guys. Good stuff for sure. I was actually considering having the firing pin / hole redone to help with the cratering. If necessary. I could be happy with a large rifle primer though as well. Lots of viable chamberings mentioned here. I like the idea of a 7/08 Improved, and the 25/284 sounds like a sweetie as well. I do fancy a cartridge with a long neck,a steep shoulder, and a fat straight body. I need to write my BR buddy and see what reamers he has on hand. That may be a deciding factor as well. There isn't anything more fun than mapping out a new critter wacker 8).
 
Can't go wrong with the 6.5x47 Lapua. Great ballistics, little recoil, and very accurate! I have one for competition and another for hunting. They shoot great!
 

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