Scope question

[warrbuk]

I have a CZ 457 VPT coming to my FFL and I wanted to ask about scopes. It will be primarily used for fun 100 yard BR and out to 250 yards. I was wondering if there was any scopes out there that would work out to 250 yards also focus down for some winter time indoor 50' use?

I have a area 419 30 MOA rail coming and that will eliminate a couple of my older Leupold EFR scopes due to there limited adjustment ranges

Thanks
Mark

 

[tmwinds]

Might want to look at a Hawke AirMax 6-24x50. It would focus to 10 yards. It is designed for air rifles but also works well on rimfire.

 

[JimSC]

Burris Fullfield 6 -24 x 50 would be worth taking a look at. 60 MOA elevation, focus down to 10 feet

Fullfield IV 6-24x50mm | Burris Optics

www.burrisoptics.com

 

[Schutzen2]

Whichever one you get, make sure you can dial it up a good 35+ moa to get to 250 yds. from your 50 yd zero. The 30 moa rail will help with that. A graduated reticle is helpful for hold-offs at longer distance also.

 

[ROBARRC50]

I run a nx8 4-32 f1 scope has everything i need in it for 22 shooting short range to longrange. Reliable tracking when your dialing away. And a holdover reticle if you dont want to dial makes shooting fast and easy. Only downside or complaint i have is the parallax is touchy adjusting. Has backlash in it. All my other niteforce scopes in the nxs atacr series do not have this problem.

 

[Lesloan]

The Sightron SIII 8-32 would be a good choice, probably the one with 1/8 MOA adjustments. Sightron is noted for their excellent optics, solid construction and repeatable adjustments. I have 3 of these and they are excellent. If you don't need a variable, their new 45x45 would be really hard to beat. I have one of these too, and love it. If you decide on a Sightron, call Lance at (870) 269-8866. He saved me a bundle on my 45x45.

 

[std7mag]

Another vote for the Sightron SIII.
I bought a used 10-50X60 LRTD from a member here.
Really helps with seeing the .224 bullet holes at 200 yards & beyond.
For shooting outdoors, a variable works better for me with the inevitable mirage.

 

[Jarhead6870]

We have several shooters using the CZ 457s with 50 MOA bases from Area 419 and Vortex Strike Eagles (no zero stop). With this setup, they are able to dial elevations out to 385 yards when shooting steel.

 

[lawman29]

So a scope that will focus at 50 feet (indoor gallery) and then use primarily at 100 yards for bench rest with ability to go to 250 yards. I've got two rifles I've used for those purposes (max was 200 yards). Remington 40x and a BSA Martini Int Mark II. They have Sightron II and Big Sky scopes that have since been discontinued. Sightron does have a couple of scopes that will get you down to 50 feet.

1) second focal plane 80 moa of adjustment:

S-TAC 4-20x50

Built for precision target shooting and hunters. The Sightron's S-TAC 4-20x50 rifle scope with covered turrets delivers superior optics and accuracy when it counts.

sightron.com

2) second focal plane 50 moa of adjustment

SIII Competition 45x45 ED

Built for competition target shooting applications up to and exceeding 1000 yards. Sightron's SIII 45x45 Competition Long Range rifle scope delivers superior optics and accuracy when it counts.

sightron.com

3) second focal plane 50 moa of adjustment

SIII Competition36x45 ED

Built for competition target shooting applications up to and exceeding 1000 yards. Sightron's SIII 36x45 Competition Long Range rifle scope delivers superior optics and accuracy when it counts.

sightron.com

4) second focal plane 60 moa adjustment:

SII Target36x42 BRD

Built for target shooting applications. Sightron's SII 36x42 BRD Target rifle scope delivers superior optics and accuracy when it counts.

sightron.com

5) FFP 80 moa of adjustment

S-TAC FFP4-20x50 Zero Stop

Built for precision target shooting and hunters. The Sightron's S-TAC 4-20x50 rifle scope with zero-stop tactical turrets and illuminated reticles delivers superior optics and accuracy when it counts.

sightron.com

My vote would be #1 or #5. Reasonably priced. The question is FFP vs SFP. Zero stop with FFP or sfp and a reticle that doesn't get smaller if you start dialing down your power when you're at 50 feet indoors.....
I think a 30 moa rail is more than you need, you'll have to see where you are adjustment wise - I wouldn't want to be at the top or bottom of the range where I do most of my shooting. With SV ammo my come ups are ~ 6moa @ 100 and ~ 23 moa @ 200 (Cody, WY ~ 5k elevation).

 

[kzin]

Most anything with sufficient mag for your eyes will work at 100++
I use a sightron siii 10-50, weaver t36, 2 different vortex 6-24s and athlon 6-18 at 50'

You need to check models to be sure they go down to 50'.
In my experience parallax range CAN be googled up -eventually- for almost all scope models

Everything I've used adjusts from point blank to 200 with a 20 moa rail.
For 250 or more you may run out of adjustment and need to use a ladder reticle or enough rail moa to lose the short range or something.

 

[warrbuk]

So a scope that will focus at 50 feet (indoor gallery) and then use primarily at 100 yards for bench rest with ability to go to 250 yards. I've got two rifles I've used for those purposes (max was 200 yards). Remington 40x and a BSA Martini Int Mark II. They have Sightron II and Big Sky scopes that have since been discontinued. Sightron does have a couple of scopes that will get you down to 50 feet.

1) second focal plane 80 moa of adjustment:

S-TAC 4-20x50

Built for precision target shooting and hunters. The Sightron's S-TAC 4-20x50 rifle scope with covered turrets delivers superior optics and accuracy when it counts.

sightron.com

2) second focal plane 50 moa of adjustment

SIII Competition 45x45 ED

Built for competition target shooting applications up to and exceeding 1000 yards. Sightron's SIII 45x45 Competition Long Range rifle scope delivers superior optics and accuracy when it counts.

sightron.com

3) second focal plane 50 moa of adjustment

SIII Competition36x45 ED

Built for competition target shooting applications up to and exceeding 1000 yards. Sightron's SIII 36x45 Competition Long Range rifle scope delivers superior optics and accuracy when it counts.

sightron.com

4) second focal plane 60 moa adjustment:

SII Target36x42 BRD

Built for target shooting applications. Sightron's SII 36x42 BRD Target rifle scope delivers superior optics and accuracy when it counts.

sightron.com

5) FFP 80 moa of adjustment

S-TAC FFP4-20x50 Zero Stop

Built for precision target shooting and hunters. The Sightron's S-TAC 4-20x50 rifle scope with zero-stop tactical turrets and illuminated reticles delivers superior optics and accuracy when it counts.

sightron.com

My vote would be #1 or #5. Reasonably priced. The question is FFP vs SFP. Zero stop with FFP or sfp and a reticle that doesn't get smaller if you start dialing down your power when you're at 50 feet indoors.....
I think a 30 moa rail is more than you need, you'll have to see where you are adjustment wise - I wouldn't want to be at the top or bottom of the range where I do most of my shooting. With SV ammo my come ups are ~ 6moa @ 100 and ~ 23 moa @ 200 (Cody, WY ~ 5k elevation).

The S-TAC FFP 4-20 looks interesting. I have read good things about Sightron but have never seen one in person. I have a NX8 4-32 that may temporarily land on the rifle

 

[URBAN1]

Honestly a SWFA 20 power is perfect if your on a budget or not. Tons of elevation tracks perfectly you can easily dial your solution. I prefer MOA.

 

[boltfluter]

The S-Tac 4 x 20 looks like a great scope for the money. I may have to pick one up for myself. Lol!

Paul

 

[warrbuk]

The S-Tac 4 x 20 looks like a great scope for the money. I may have to pick one up for myself. Lol!

Paul

I was also looking at the Vortex Venom. Although it seems larger and heavier. Vortex offers a great Mil./Leo Discount

 

[pintopete]

I was also looking at the Vortex Venom. Although it seems larger and heavier. Vortex offers a great Mil./Leo Discount

So does Sightron, but frequently Lance’s prices are better. Depends on the specific scope.

 

[boltman13]

My CZ 457 has a Area 419 30MOA base and a Muller 40X scope. Works great at 50 yards and 100 yards. Haven't tried 200 but at 150 there is still a lot of elevation left.

 

[boltfluter]

I was also looking at the Vortex Venom. Although it seems larger and heavier. Vortex offers a great Mil./Leo Discount

Personally I would take the Sightron over the Vortex any day. Just my .02 and worth exactly what you paid for it. Lol!
Paul

 

[Kracken McGraw]

The S-TAC FFP 4-20 looks interesting. I have read good things about Sightron but have never seen one in person. I have a NX8 4-32 that may temporarily land on the rifle

I think this scope with the moa reticle just came out.
The S-Tac scopes are in the May-June sale that Lance just posted in the optics forum.

 

[PracticalTactical]

I have a CZ 457 VPT coming to my FFL and I wanted to ask about scopes. It will be primarily used for fun 100 yard BR and out to 250 yards. I was wondering if there was any scopes out there that would work out to 250 yards also focus down for some winter time indoor 50' use?

I have a area 419 30 MOA rail coming and that will eliminate a couple of my older Leupold EFR scopes due to there limited adjustment ranges

Thanks
Mark

Me and a buddy have been shooting a bit of air rifle lately and while I'm not a fan of Vortex in general, the Vortex Diamondback Tactical has parallax down to just 7.5 yards. The specs say 10 yards, but that's not correct.

There's a list of things we dont like about the VDT, but we do like to short parralax.

If the closest you need is 10 meters, you might want to have a look at Element scopes. I think all or most of them dial to 10 meters. They hit a range of pics points from cheap to upper mid range, so you could find something in your price range.

 

[bullfrog]

Recently bought an Athlon Midas TAC HD 6-24x50 for my kidd 10/22. Dials very well. Love the feel of the clicks. Very positive without being difficult to turn. Very repeatable. Crazy good zero stop. Glass is pretty good. Way better glass than the Vortex diamondback tactical it replaced. Reasonable price also. Parallax down to 10 yards.