First I'm an old iron sight boy. I like FFP scopes as a check on my range finders, an example that comes to mind is when I had a chuck popped his head up behind the crest of a terrace. I was about 400 yards away, two terraces up and I could see him and the slope behind him buy my range finder was picking up 2 ranges. With my scope I trusted the longer range and made the hit.
Scope Help--Tired of just OK
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Tract TORIC UHD Hunting Rifle Scope Review
Several months ago, Jon Allen, Co-Founder of Tract Optics, graciously agreed to provide me with one of their Toric UHD Hunting Rifle Scopes. When discussing the review, I explained I would be checking tracking, zero retention, and return to zero. Checking those items would include drop test...
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John
ken158
Silver $$ Contributor
Didn’t read all your reply’s but Swarovski and Nightforce have been my best scopes. High end Leupold and Zeiss are nice also. I know my LGS keeps a box in the back room just for Vortex send backs so I have never considered one of them. Just check reviews and go with your gut.
As a varmint shooter, I think the Nightforce BR 8-32X is a fine scope. I've bought a few (used) on AS and they are sharp, great contrast, reasonably priced, useful reticles, all of em. It's long and heavy, though. I confess, I'm not up to date on the latest and greatest.
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this is a second focal scope but for the money it is hard to beat - this is a write up from one of the daily bulletins on this scope from SW optics
Delta Optical Stryker 5-50x56mm HD Scope Field Test
DELTA OPTICAL, STRYKER SCOPE
STRYKER HD 5-50×56 SFP
$1,590.00
DELTA OPTICAL, JAVELIN, SCOPE
JAVELIN 4.5-30×56 FFP
$1,049.00
I have the Stryker and it is a great scope!!!
stan
Delta Optical Stryker 5-50x56mm HD Scope Field Test
DELTA OPTICAL, STRYKER SCOPE
STRYKER HD 5-50×56 SFP
$1,590.00
DELTA OPTICAL, JAVELIN, SCOPE
JAVELIN 4.5-30×56 FFP
$1,049.00
I have the Stryker and it is a great scope!!!
stan
Used isnt a bad way to go. I’ve seen quite a few good deals here and elsewhere on good glass. Heres one example. I’ve owned this model before and liked it, I currently have other Steiners too and think highly of them. Lots of top tier glass in the classifieds, just check the seller’s history and make sure there is good feedback. I always call and chat before buying high ticket items. I’ve seen some Schmidt and Benders, Mark 5s, and others go for really reasonable prices lately.
SOLD/EXPIRED - Steiner Tx5i 5-25x56 Scope w/ Seekings Rings
Steiner TX5i 5-25x56 Rifle Scope with Seekins Precision Rings 34mm tube FFP 34mm low rings....if you dont want the rings, knock off $50 $1150 $1075 $1050 shippedwww.longrangehunting.com
another used one, great scopes, great price.
SOLD - Leupold Mark 5HD 5-25x56 PR1-Mil
Selling a Leupold Mark 5HD 5-25x56 FFP rifle scope with the PR1-Mil Reticle. Adjustments are 1/10th mil. Ships in original box with scope caps, sunshade, wrench, and all papers. Cashiers Check, MO, or Personal Check preferred. Asking $1560 shipped.forum.accurateshooter.com
I know you said FFP but I wanted to show you a deal on a new Trijicon, 2 of them in your power range. I’ve never seen them discounted this much. I bought the 3-18x. Probably the best value going on high quality glass currently.
Trijicon Tenmile 4.5-30x56 SFP Long-Range w/ Red/Green MRAD Long Range, 34mm, Matte Black Riflescope 3000015 For Sale | SHIPS FREE - EuroOptic
FREE SHIPPING on Trijicon Tenmile 4.5-30x56 SFP Long-Range w/ Red/Green MRAD Long Range, 34mm, Matte Black Riflescope 3000015www.eurooptic.com
Trijicon Tenmile 4-24x50 SFP w/ Green LED Dot, MRAD Ranging, 30mm, Matte Black Riflescope 3000008 - Light ring marks
Trijicon USED Tenmile 4-24x50 SFP Riflescope w Green LED Dot MRAD Ranging 30mm Tube Matte Black 3000008 - Light Ring Marks UA4710www.eurooptic.com
Those Tenmiles are an amazing deal at those prices
6MMsteve
Gold $$ Contributor
a good deal on the 4.5x30 $1100Used isnt a bad way to go. I’ve seen quite a few good deals here and elsewhere on good glass. Heres one example. I’ve owned this model before and liked it, I currently have other Steiners too and think highly of them. Lots of top tier glass in the classifieds, just check the seller’s history and make sure there is good feedback. I always call and chat before buying high ticket items. I’ve seen some Schmidt and Benders, Mark 5s, and others go for really reasonable prices lately.
SOLD/EXPIRED - Steiner Tx5i 5-25x56 Scope w/ Seekings Rings
Steiner TX5i 5-25x56 Rifle Scope with Seekins Precision Rings 34mm tube FFP 34mm low rings....if you dont want the rings, knock off $50 $1150 $1075 $1050 shipped
another used one, great scopes, great price.
SOLD - Leupold Mark 5HD 5-25x56 PR1-Mil
Selling a Leupold Mark 5HD 5-25x56 FFP rifle scope with the PR1-Mil Reticle. Adjustments are 1/10th mil. Ships in original box with scope caps, sunshade, wrench, and all papers. Cashiers Check, MO, or Personal Check preferred. Asking $1560 shipped.forum.accurateshooter.com
I know you said FFP but I wanted to show you a deal on a new Trijicon, 2 of them in your power range. I’ve never seen them discounted this much. I bought the 3-18x. Probably the best value going on high quality glass currently.
Trijicon Tenmile 4.5-30x56 SFP Long-Range w/ Red/Green MRAD Long Range, 34mm, Matte Black Riflescope 3000015 For Sale | SHIPS FREE - EuroOptic
FREE SHIPPING on Trijicon Tenmile 4.5-30x56 SFP Long-Range w/ Red/Green MRAD Long Range, 34mm, Matte Black Riflescope 3000015
Trijicon Tenmile 4-24x50 SFP w/ Green LED Dot, MRAD Ranging, 30mm, Matte Black Riflescope 3000008 - Light ring marks
Trijicon USED Tenmile 4-24x50 SFP Riflescope w Green LED Dot MRAD Ranging 30mm Tube Matte Black 3000008 - Light Ring Marks UA4710
dusterdave173
Silver $$ Contributor
Lots of good advice here --THANKS to all I really appreciate the time everyone took to help me.
I just ordered a Tract Toric--their flagship the 4.5-30 Jon said I would be happy with the 20X but I have bought about 5 scopes in last few years and have always wished for more--I hope that this unit will do it--It has too that was at the limit of what I was willing to spend--I saw other scopes that were probably made at LOW--The Delta Stryker, the Athlon Chronos and others look to be nearly the same --but after talking with Jon--he Earned my business with straight no bull--asked lots of questions but more important he listened to me--really listened and helped me decide. Very professional--customer centered Now --I just have to wait 5 weeks to see if I was right. Will report when I get it mounted--
That link to the TENMILE units had some smoking deals but I wanted MOA but Thanks anyway
I just ordered a Tract Toric--their flagship the 4.5-30 Jon said I would be happy with the 20X but I have bought about 5 scopes in last few years and have always wished for more--I hope that this unit will do it--It has too that was at the limit of what I was willing to spend--I saw other scopes that were probably made at LOW--The Delta Stryker, the Athlon Chronos and others look to be nearly the same --but after talking with Jon--he Earned my business with straight no bull--asked lots of questions but more important he listened to me--really listened and helped me decide. Very professional--customer centered Now --I just have to wait 5 weeks to see if I was right. Will report when I get it mounted--
That link to the TENMILE units had some smoking deals but I wanted MOA but Thanks anyway
dusterdave173
Silver $$ Contributor
Well I ordered middle of Sept and it finally arrived! I decided to go with Tract Toric 4.5-30x56
Got it mounted on the rifle this afternoon and have been "glassing" all over my property for the last hour--WOW!!! The optics on this thing are CRISP. I can't wait to get to the range in next few days.
First impressions are Quality all over--the controls are smooth as butter not too stiff--after I got it mounted the ole Savage did feel a lot heavier but I only shoot it from a rest or bench so that will work in my favor. Jon has been pure Pro to work with--They estimated a shipping date and only missed it by One day! I went ahead and ordered the Tenebraex flip up caps. It seems built like a tank--I have never seen scope optics like this--Will report soon and again--Thanks to all for the suggestions!
Got it mounted on the rifle this afternoon and have been "glassing" all over my property for the last hour--WOW!!! The optics on this thing are CRISP. I can't wait to get to the range in next few days.
First impressions are Quality all over--the controls are smooth as butter not too stiff--after I got it mounted the ole Savage did feel a lot heavier but I only shoot it from a rest or bench so that will work in my favor. Jon has been pure Pro to work with--They estimated a shipping date and only missed it by One day! I went ahead and ordered the Tenebraex flip up caps. It seems built like a tank--I have never seen scope optics like this--Will report soon and again--Thanks to all for the suggestions!
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dusterdave173
Silver $$ Contributor
Well....First day at the range with the new Tract--I LIKE it! Glass is so clear and sharp--very bright
The turrets are very clean--solid clicks--line up dead on the lines--NO mush at all
Unit tracks perfect--better than I can measure--the controls are butter smooth not too stiff or too loose
The scope does have some weight--not a bad thing at all as I only use on a bench
The zero stop works like a door stop--very solid feeling
Scope has very good image quality at full power of 30x--edges look great
Eye box very forgiving
Overall I am sold on these--I think anybody that looks through one will agree
The turrets are very clean--solid clicks--line up dead on the lines--NO mush at all
Unit tracks perfect--better than I can measure--the controls are butter smooth not too stiff or too loose
The scope does have some weight--not a bad thing at all as I only use on a bench
The zero stop works like a door stop--very solid feeling
Scope has very good image quality at full power of 30x--edges look great
Eye box very forgiving
Overall I am sold on these--I think anybody that looks through one will agree
Sightron 10x50x60 .I have two. And only wish i had found them sooner. Tommy Mc
I also have an old 5.5 x 22x NXS that is probably the best scope I've ever owned.
dusterdave173
Silver $$ Contributor
15% Off sitewide from TRACT right this minute--about $1400 for the top of the line--Had mine to the range three times this week and LOVE it---Customer service is the best ever
I am telling you the glass on these is just amazing
I am telling you the glass on these is just amazing
slm9s
Gold $$ Contributor
Congrats on a successful mission of finding a nice optic!
Next you can get rid of the Savage and get a nice action!!!
I kid, I kid...
I had a NF BR scope but it doesn't have side focus which I found annoying. The NXS and NX8 series have the side focus and are very useful for the pd's and gophers (ground squirrels).
Nightforce SHV.
Its like a sore pecker, "Can't Beat it!".
Its like a sore pecker, "Can't Beat it!".
ken158
Silver $$ Contributor
Lots of helpful answers to your question but my thoughts are that i never buy any brand that I cannot re-sell and recoup most of my investment. Others will chime in with this and that as a favorite but my LGS keeps boxes in the back room of scopes that need to go back for repairs. Lots of scopes in the Vortex box… You set a budget of 1K to 1.5K which will eliminate several of the recommended scopes by other posts to your question. So - stick with a high quality name brand like Nightforce, Swarovski, Leupold, etc. Give a SFP scope a hard look because that opens up your options a lot. I have done a lot of varmint hunting and only used a FFP for one year before I sold it. As a parting note, side focus is a must in the varmint fields that once you use one, you will never want to go back to objective end focus.
That is what I would do.
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