SCOPE FOR SHORT RANGE COMPS.

[LHSmith]

Some other issues that could develop from your build for use in IBS SR VFS, besides being very close to the max weight, is (1) barrel taper....if you are getting a true "bull" bbl. as spec'd by Criterian .....you will be over the limit on max. bbl. diameter and (2) depending on which Tracker stock you are using.....the bottom of the butt stock needs to meet an angle requirement in addition to a having a fore-end of a max. of 3"
Also, note muzzle brakes are not allowed. At an average of 60 rounds expended per yardage agg,(assuming you can get some handle on the conditions and your rifle tune) the recoil from that chambering will take its toll...even from a HV gun......not to mention fighting considerably more barrel heat than others on the line.

 

[GSPV]

It will be hard being competitive with any 6mm in IBS score unless it's a very windy day. The 30 cal hole has a significant advantage on X count.

If you shoot a lot of sighters or take a lot of shots to do load development, your barrel will last you just about that 5-7 matches. The 243 is tough on the throat.

When you have the barrel set up, try to have enough shank left to set the barrel back once. You'll preserve some of your investment that way.

 

[rjtfroggy]

GSVP so what you are saying is that I can expect less than 250-350 rounds down the barrel before it is toast.

 

[GSPV]

Nah. I'm saying more like 1,000.

In order to be competitive, you have to hit 20 or so X's at 100 and shoot clean and have around 8 X at 200. At 100, the X is 1/16th and at 200 1/8th. So, what I'm getting at is that accuracy is pretty critical with a 6mm.

You'll need to work up an accuracy load. You'll need to do some work to figure out how temperature effects your tune with your barrel and powder. I think you'll find that at the kind of precision that we're talking about, the 243 will be much more akin to a 6 PPC than a 30 BR.

You'll shoot a warm up match at each yardage that you shoot. Normally two yardages per match. You'll shoot sighters in addition to your record shots.

Bottom line: You'll get to 1,000 pretty quick.

 

[aj300mag]

Greg, of the five 250-25X that has been shot at our range only one was shot with a .30 . My personal best has been a 250-23X and yes if I were shooting a .30 that day I would have scored 25X, still don't feel the need to build myself a .30 though. The majority of our matches are won with a 6MM.

 

[rjtfroggy]

Ok. Now here is how I looked at it,60-75 rounds for sighting in and finding a load,4 100 yard matches a year , 50 rounds per match. so for the first year I'm at 300 rounds give or take a few.leaves me another 3-4 years of shooting,by then I'll be past my mid sixties,Lord willing I'll still be shooting.
On a side note I use a 308 for 200 yard but I'm thinking of changing that during the winter.

 

[LHSmith]

froggy- If you are serious and want to give this outfit a chance of getting a respectable score ~ 235 + out of a possible 250...50 rounds per match is not realistic, nor is finding a tunable load in 60-75 rounds......and no allowance for practice? You'll be shooting against those Vermont boys and Mainiacs who shoot thousands of rounds a year in preparation for matches. You have made your entry into Registered VFS competition into much harder than it has to be by your cartridge choice....not so much due to caliber (6 PPC's can get high "X" counts) as much as using an overbore cartridge that is not, never has been, and never will be accurate enough to compete with the other cartridges you will be competing against in SR BR.

 

[rjtfroggy]

LH yea those guys from Vermont Maine and N.J. sure do take this seriously.A score of 235 won't even put you in the top 15 at these matches.
I have the pleasure of sitting next to Orland at most matches and listen to everything he tells me, and then try to follow up on practice sessions.
As for competing against them I started to late in life at this game so I just compete against myself and try to improve at every match, sometimes successfully, sometimes NOT.
At the range where I do most of my practice the benches are concrete and dead level,my scores are way better than where the matches are held, wavey wood benches, but I'll go down to that range and shoot once or twice coming into the match for practice(not nearly enough) and to get used to the benches.
Back on topic I ended up buying a T36 should have it by the middle of next week,so all the pieces are ordered or on their way and hopefully everything will be here by June and this will be ready for the August match.