SC brings back the firing squad

[davidjoe]

Three rifleman from 15 feet away. South Carolina granted this request yesterday.

Idaho reinstated the method of execution after so many failed lethal injections. I think I heard five states permit this election, but no one had opted for it in 15 years until now.

I’m really perplexed how something like fentanyl, which is a component of surgical anesthesia and a predominant cause of death in our country amongst drug users, and which is evidently extremely easy to overdose on, eludes the states’ prison bureaus.

Are states not bogging down in bureaucratic bungling this macabre but straight forward task, now unnecessarily dramatic? Regular people have accomplished this act since, Cain, offspring number “one.”

If our states cannot accomplish an intentional overdose (you can only underdo it) with a prepared IV drip on a secured inmate, is three guys standing beside each other with high powered rifles - I’m wagering shooting their first human, not fraught with quite a bit of potential mishap?

Questions I have:

1) when these employees inevitably claim PTSD, hearing damage, inability to sleep, familial strife, fallout from being doxxed, and all obtain social security disability, how much will these executions really cost them and us?

2) do they tryout for this? what do they do the rest of the time; I really hope this is not the “full-time” job;

3) is rifle handling, presumably indoors out of view, and steadily aiming a rifle at a man’s heart while standing and coordinating shots on verbal command supposed to be the more foolproof execution alternative?

I can’t help but think of once when a trapped hog I shot didn’t die humanely with the rounds I had on hand in a revolver. It just seems like a move toward the spectacle of it all.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

All I'll say is..they should use the apricot area. Sentence served. Execution, be it injection of a drug or a bullet is still..execution. Can't make it pretty but it can be justified. Even death by natural causes isn't pretty and is arguably a worse death to watch and less humane, that most of us will experience, sooner or later. Grim subject. Do we let our very terminally ill loved ones die naturally for them, or for ourselves?

 

[Kracken McGraw]

Three rifleman from 15 feet away. South Carolina granted this request yesterday.

Idaho reinstated the method of execution after so many failed lethal injections. I think I heard five states permit this election, but no one had opted for it in 15 years until now.

I’m really perplexed how something like fentanyl, which is a component of surgical anesthesia and a predominant cause of death in our country amongst drug users, and which is evidently extremely easy to overdose on, eludes the states’ prison bureaus.

Are states not bogging down in bureaucratic bungling this macabre but straight forward task, now unnecessarily dramatic? Regular people have accomplished this act since, Cain, offspring number “one.”

If our states cannot accomplish an intentional overdose (you can only underdo it) with a prepared IV drip on a secured inmate, is three guys standing beside each other with high powered rifles - I’m wagering shooting their first human, not fraught with quite a bit of potential mishap?

Questions I have:

1) when these employees inevitably claim PTSD, hearing damage, inability to sleep, familial strife, fallout from being doxxed, and all obtain social security disability, how much will these executions really cost them and us?

2) do they tryout for this? what do they do the rest of the time; I really hope this is not the “full-time” job;

3) is rifle handling, presumably indoors out of view, and steadily aiming a rifle at a man’s heart while standing and coordinating shots on verbal command supposed to be the more foolproof execution alternative?

I can’t help but think of once when a trapped hog I shot didn’t die humanely with the rounds I had on hand in a revolver. It just seems like a move toward the spectacle of it all.

A nylon rope and a tree works for me.
Add a saddled horse and pistol shot, that would be Cool.

 

[cavedweller60]

Three rifleman from 15 feet away. South Carolina granted this request yesterday.

Idaho reinstated the method of execution after so many failed lethal injections. I think I heard five states permit this election, but no one had opted for it in 15 years until now.

I’m really perplexed how something like fentanyl, which is a component of surgical anesthesia and a predominant cause of death in our country amongst drug users, and which is evidently extremely easy to overdose on, eludes the states’ prison bureaus.

Are states not bogging down in bureaucratic bungling this macabre but straight forward task, now unnecessarily dramatic? Regular people have accomplished this act since, Cain, offspring number “one.”

If our states cannot accomplish an intentional overdose (you can only underdo it) with a prepared IV drip on a secured inmate, is three guys standing beside each other with high powered rifles - I’m wagering shooting their first human, not fraught with quite a bit of potential mishap?

Questions I have:

1) when these employees inevitably claim PTSD, hearing damage, inability to sleep, familial strife, fallout from being doxxed, and all obtain social security disability, how much will these executions really cost them and us?

2) do they tryout for this? what do they do the rest of the time; I really hope this is not the “full-time” job;

3) is rifle handling, presumably indoors out of view, and steadily aiming a rifle at a man’s heart while standing and coordinating shots on verbal command supposed to be the more foolproof execution alternative?

I can’t help but think of once when a trapped hog I shot didn’t die humanely with the rounds I had on hand in a revolver. It just seems like a move toward the spectacle of it all.

The problem with drugs...all of them...is that the manufacturers won't sell them to agencies for use in executions. A prison can't just go out and buy a few grams off the corner, it has to be certified pharmaceutical grade chemical. That is the issue that the states have been running into.

I am ok with however prisons do it, up to and including everything used in the past and many things that haven't been used yet.

As someone that came literally seconds from dying from accidental nitrogen asphyxiation, that seems about as painless and quick as you can get. It is easy to get, absolutely painless and cheap.

 

[Fire Dog]

Three rifleman from 15 feet away. South Carolina granted this request yesterday.

Idaho reinstated the method of execution after so many failed lethal injections. I think I heard five states permit this election, but no one had opted for it in 15 years until now.

I’m really perplexed how something like fentanyl, which is a component of surgical anesthesia and a predominant cause of death in our country amongst drug users, and which is evidently extremely easy to overdose on, eludes the states’ prison bureaus.

Are states not bogging down in bureaucratic bungling this macabre but straight forward task, now unnecessarily dramatic? Regular people have accomplished this act since, Cain, offspring number “one.”

If our states cannot accomplish an intentional overdose (you can only underdo it) with a prepared IV drip on a secured inmate, is three guys standing beside each other with high powered rifles - I’m wagering shooting their first human, not fraught with quite a bit of potential mishap?

Questions I have:

1) when these employees inevitably claim PTSD, hearing damage, inability to sleep, familial strife, fallout from being doxxed, and all obtain social security disability, how much will these executions really cost them and us?

2) do they tryout for this? what do they do the rest of the time; I really hope this is not the “full-time” job;

3) is rifle handling, presumably indoors out of view, and steadily aiming a rifle at a man’s heart while standing and coordinating shots on verbal command supposed to be the more foolproof execution alternative?

I can’t help but think of once when a trapped hog I shot didn’t die humanely with the rounds I had on hand in a revolver. It just seems like a move toward the spectacle of it all.

I have often wondered about the claimed lack of appropriate chemicals/medication for execution when heroin and fentanyl are routinely available through confiscated supplies.
A “Hot Shot” from them and the individual just fades away as fast as that pet you had to put down at the veterinarian…
You have raised a valid point about PTSD {ask anyone that served in active service how they reflect and feel about their days of “sanctioned” killing now that they have returned to “Thou Shall Not Kill” society}
My dad from WWII, myself and friends from VN, as the years roll by there is always time to reflect on actions and responsibilities even though “For the Greater Good”…
It is patiently obvious that the overflowing prison system is not an answer to societies ills…

 

[Murray Brook]

Guillotine. Don't try and sanitize something that isn't. Maybe execution should be carried out in the same manner that their victims received

 

[STOMP442]

I think they should put in an express lane and offer it on pay per view, proceeds go to the victims. Pedos on Monday nights, Murderers on Wednesday and Thieves on Friday Nights. Watch the crime rate fall to nearly zero.

 

[cavedweller60]

Three rifleman from 15 feet away. South Carolina granted this request yesterday.

Idaho reinstated the method of execution after so many failed lethal injections. I think I heard five states permit this election, but no one had opted for it in 15 years until now.

I’m really perplexed how something like fentanyl, which is a component of surgical anesthesia and a predominant cause of death in our country amongst drug users, and which is evidently extremely easy to overdose on, eludes the states’ prison bureaus.

Are states not bogging down in bureaucratic bungling this macabre but straight forward task, now unnecessarily dramatic? Regular people have accomplished this act since, Cain, offspring number “one.”

If our states cannot accomplish an intentional overdose (you can only underdo it) with a prepared IV drip on a secured inmate, is three guys standing beside each other with high powered rifles - I’m wagering shooting their first human, not fraught with quite a bit of potential mishap?

Questions I have:

1) when these employees inevitably claim PTSD, hearing damage, inability to sleep, familial strife, fallout from being doxxed, and all obtain social security disability, how much will these executions really cost them and us?

2) do they tryout for this? what do they do the rest of the time; I really hope this is not the “full-time” job;

3) is rifle handling, presumably indoors out of view, and steadily aiming a rifle at a man’s heart while standing and coordinating shots on verbal command supposed to be the more foolproof execution alternative?

I can’t help but think of once when a trapped hog I shot didn’t die humanely with the rounds I had on hand in a revolver. It just seems like a move toward the spectacle of it all.

To be perfectly honest, I feel worse for the hog you mentioned than I do for someone sentenced to death.

The hog is just being a hog and behaving as any other hog does. A person sentenced to death has behaved in an abhorrent manner deemed by society to be worthy of death.

That, in my opinion, is worse than an animal acting normally and, the person deserves what they have coming.

 

[G Liles]

Bring back the gallows and do it in public!!

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

To be perfectly honest, I feel worse for the hog you mentioned than I do for someone sentenced to death.

The hog is just being a hog and behaving as any other hog does. A person sentenced to death has behaved in an abhorrent manner deemed by society to be worthy of death.

That, in my opinion, is worse than an animal acting normally and, the person deserves what they have coming.

And, his last wish was granted regarding how. I'm not sure he deserved that much, really. I guess I'm a hog too. If given a choice to live a miserable life vs a quick and painless death, when death is inevitable...I'd choose the latter. I think many of us have been through pulling the plug on a loved one because we knew their wishes. It's really hard, even when they have not been sentenced to die by society because they were a pos. Life is hard but it has to be done. We should not cower away from doing the right thing, because it's tough. And yes, in the case of the op's subject, it is a deterrent that prevents further crime...or at least stops that person from doing it again. This country does NOT hand out death penalties lightly.

 

[Tesoro]

That hanging pic is not too correct. I was in a museum once and saw a page out of a British hangman manual on how much rope (drop) was needed based on body weight to break the neck. ie a 120 lb man needed 10 ft. Me? about 4ft!

 

[TonyinKY]

From what I’ve read it should’ve been with a baseball bat 20+ years ago. THAT is what he DESERVED!!!

 

[G Liles]

That hanging pic is not too correct. I was in a museum once and saw a page out of a British hangman manual on how much rope (drop) was needed based on body weight to break the neck. ie a 120 lb man needed 10 ft. Me? about 4ft!

About 4ft for me too!

 

[Medic505]

I hope they don't give him a last cigarette; smoking is bad for your health.....

 

[markT]

From what I’ve read it should’ve been with a baseball bat 20+ years ago. THAT is what he DESERVED!!!

It should not have taken 20 years...
Murder was 20 mins form me..

 

[Melvin]

I live in SC and it was reported that the 3 executioners were volunteers.
Melvin

 

[buckeye68]

Justice served!

 

[338 Mollett]

DON'T tell me a 6.5 creed !!!

 

[Kracken McGraw]

DON'T tell me a 6.5 creed !!!

That’s what I was thinking.
Son do you have any final word’s before your execution?
Inmate-“ Well all three of your Creedmoor’s still Suck.”

 

[bobm]

Three 308's presumably with a 150gr. FMJ at 15 feet. Overkill. What was the back stop? Seems like .30 carbine would be better. This image the from Draper, Utah execution. Big group for a small organ.