Savage Straight-Pull Action

[jackieschmidt]

There must be a market for it or I doubt Savage would have put forth the effort.
The single biggest innovation is the ball bearing “locking lugs”. Nothing ever rotates.
The video does not say if the balls aid in pushing the bolt into final battery If a case is a little tight.
I suspect that with this system, the shooter must be sure that the case is resized so as to offer no resistance when entering the chamber.

 

[CaptainMal]

There must be a market for it or I doubt Savage would have put forth the effort.
The single biggest innovation is the ball bearing “locking lugs”. Nothing ever rotates.
The video does not say if the balls aid in pushing the bolt into final battery If a case is a little tight.
I suspect that with this system, the shooter must be sure that the case is resized so as to offer no resistance when entering the chamber.

Doubt their camming action contributes to anything. You have to push the bolt shut and then they are locked. Guessing if not locked in place with your push, the rifle will not fire. Sure hope so as if it did there would be hell to pay.

 

[johara1]

Casual observations...

Very cool that the bolt can be switched out from one side to the other.

Also cool that the bolt handle angle can be adjusted by the user.

It is basically 9 pound gun without a scope. Deal breaker for me. YMMV

On the video I watched, the guy was pulling the gun away from his shoulder to cycle it indicating it is either a bit difficult to work or he just wasn't used to it.

Time will tell if this gun is accepted by the public.

Why is that? you have UBR unlimited...... jim

 

[jimmymac]

Why is that? you have UBR unlimited...... jim

Not interested in shooting factory class.

 

[Warren Dean]

....Guessing if not locked in place with your push, the rifle will not fire.....

That is correct

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Ill give one a try

 

[johara1]

Not interested in shooting factory class.

Use the action and make a bench gun, be first on your block to have one ... LMAO.... jim

 

[CaptainMal]

Use the action and make a bench gun, be first on your block to have one ... LMAO.... jim

Doubt that would work. From the videos I saw one thing was common. They all seem to show a rather hard push and pull required to work that action.

On a bench in quality bags front and rear, that would upset any hope of precision tracking. With a conventional bolt you can close and later eject with little more than "one finger force".

Think about how you might use the "Wheeler Method" with that action to check seating depth touch points. Doubt it would be ideal for benchrest use.

 

[Rat Rifle]

Now if Savage would just bring back the Stevens 200

 

[Warren Dean]

No need. There is the all of the model 110 variants with a better stock.

 

[Grimstod]

Doubt that would work. From the videos I saw one thing was common. They all seem to show a rather hard push and pull required to work that action.

On a bench in quality bags front and rear, that would upset any hope of precision tracking. With a conventional bolt you can close and later eject with little more than "one finger force".

Think about how you might use the "Wheeler Method" with that action to check seating depth touch points. Doubt it would be ideal for benchrest use.

You bring up a good point. I wonder how much force is needed to feed. Now if they would com out with a flat bottom model with no magazine for bench use it might eliminates some moving parts. Over all it looks like a complicated mechanism for sure.

Would love to build a left hand right feed left eject. With the aluminum receiver that would be easy to modify.

 

[johara1]

Doubt that would work. From the videos I saw one thing was common. They all seem to show a rather hard push and pull required to work that action.

On a bench in quality bags front and rear, that would upset any hope of precision tracking. With a conventional bolt you can close and later eject with little more than "one finger force".

Think about how you might use the "Wheeler Method" with that action to check seating depth touch points. Doubt it would be ideal for benchrest use.

I don't know about the " wheeler method" but it would be no different than doing it for a semi or pump gun to set seating depth. Now if it would be better to get a good trigger to work in it would be a giant step forward for them....... jim

 

[CaptainMal]

I don't know about the " wheeler method" but it would be no different than doing it for a semi or pump gun to set seating depth. Now if it would be better to get a good trigger to work in it would be a giant step forward for them....... jim

Kind of doubt that.

A bolt has to fall and lock-up with NO pressure at all to feel where the contact begins. All those balls in the front of the Savage bolt would have to be compressed to lock up. To do that would take pressure negating the feel needed to know when there is bullet/land contact.

Then you have to deal with the linkage inside that Savage bolt. Guessing you could take it out somehow but with that linkage in there must be more pushing required, making a "no pressure gravity bolt lockup" impossible.

Probably a good hunting action. Not so probable as a target action.

 

[johara1]

Kind of doubt that.

A bolt has to fall and lock-up with NO pressure at all to feel where the contact begins. All those balls in the front of the Savage bolt would have to be compressed to lock up. To do that would take pressure negating the feel needed to know when there is bullet/land contact.

Then you have to deal with the linkage inside that Savage bolt. Guessing you could take it out somehow but with that linkage in there must be more pushing required, making a "no pressure gravity bolt lockup" impossible.

Probably a good hunting action. Not so probable as a target action.

Can't you measure any more? is it monkey see monkey do?...... jim

 

[boltfluter]

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why Savage came out with this! They have yet to build a descent bolt action that will take a good trigger. No idea!

Paul

 

[Dgd6mm]

For the life of me, I cannot figure out why Savage came out with this! They have yet to build a descent bolt action that will take a good trigger. No idea!

Paul

If I want to shoot a better trigger I'll put my Savage down and pick up my Nucleus.

 

[Warren Dean]

They have yet to build a descent bolt action that will take a good trigger.

Paul

They already build many "descent" rifles and the target accu-trigger work very well.

 

[boltfluter]

They already build many "descent" rifles and the target accu-trigger work very well.

My idea of "descent" and yours are quite different!

 

[sandwarrior]

My idea of "descent" and yours are quite different!

A lot of it depends on lightness. The only one I know that goes below 6 oz. is Rifle Basix. There are better triggers for other actions. Most notably top triggers for 700 clones.

And it's 'decent'. 'Descent' is to fall or lose altitude. F*^$# English language and it's idiosyncracies...

 

[Richard Jones]

No dog in this fight yet, but from the videos I have seen:

1. Seemed difficult/clumsy to operate (maybe it was just how the videos were done)
2. Way too many parts for me.
3. Solution to a non-existent problem (it's not your fault you don't have enough coordination to manipulate a traditional bolt, so we're going to help you. ((Who does that sound like?)) No matter that they have produced a bazillion metric tons of bolt rifles...........)

I have many questions about this new action, but they mostly deal with 'Why?'

And I have quite a few Savages that I like. I wish they could use 700-style triggers, but they shoot fairly well for what they are. Not a fanboy, but I enjoy the DIY aspect. Now that I am keeping Zermatt in business all by myself, the Savages may leave home.

Sorry, didn't sleep well last night.