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savage model 12 benchrest...what is the verdict on this rifle?

i have an opportunity if i want it to get an excellent deal on the savage rifle of my choice (approximately half off)... i was thinking of getting a model 12 benchrest in 6br with the 8 twist....i would love to hear from you if you have owned or shot one of these or something similar and how you feel about it....would you get the 8 twist or 12 twist. what kind of groups were you able to get??? thank you.

justin
 
Buy it!
Mine is an 8 tw. and I shoot mainly 105 Berger's.
At 100 yards it is easy to hold .4 and trust me I AM NOT that skilled of a precision shooter.
Yes I do use Lapua brass and lovingly load the ammunition.

Is it comparable to my BAT action custom-NO. Did it cost less than 1/3 of the custom - YUP!

For a good shooting factory rifle it is hard to beat.

Gary

ps, try the trigger as some folks do not care for the Target Trigger.
I don't mind it though it is not a Jewell.
 
nra-for-life said:
i have an opportunity if i want it to get an excellent deal on the savage rifle of my choice (approximately half off)... i was thinking of getting a model 12 benchrest in 6br with the 8 twist....i would love to hear from you if you have owned or shot one of these or something similar and how you feel about it....would you get the 8 twist or 12 twist. what kind of groups were you able to get??? thank you.

justin

Twist rate would depend on what weight bullet and intended use of the rifle. Here is a link to some opinions of the Savage as written by persons that use them:
http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/index.php/topic,49070.0.html
 
The Savage 12 benchrest can be a fine rifle, it has a lot of nice features, but it is not perfect. The rifle is a production rifle, and is just like any other Savage from the factory. There is misleading beliefs, that the target action, is a special action, or that Savage uses special or aftermarket barrels on the target line of guns. The fact is the target action is identical to any other action except for the sear, it is cut at a different angle. The action is no smoother, and the barrel is exactly the same as any other factory Savage barrel, it is not hand lapped, or receive any special treatment. Just like any other Savage, the barrels are drilled at super high speeds, so it will have some marks all the way down the tube. Just remember this thing is not a custom action, it is not a Bat or a Panda, it is a production made gun, and will have looses tolerances. It will also have the same problems as any other Savage, but with that all said the dang things will shoot Great right out of the box.

Things I disliked about the Savage model 12 Benchrest, to start the barrel is too long. For some reason Savage saw a need to place at 29 inch long barrel on the thing. Because of the barrel length, I found that the gun is unbalanced, and wants to lift our of the rear bag. (Some people would disagree with me.) I also found that the stock has a lot of torque to it, and I contribute this to the height of the barrel to the bottom of the stock.

Just like any Savage with the target accu-trigger I have never seen one that will go down to the advertised weight, or work at the lower settings, somewere just under 1lbs is where you will find it works best. As well as any other Savage, for some reason there is a tolerance problem with the bolt heads, which can cause ejection problems, and it is magnified by short cases like the 6BR. Sharp Shooters Supply has been working to make aftermarket parts to fix this problem, and so far has gotten them to work well. The ejection ports on the target actions are HUGH, and are made to accommodate cartridges as big as a 284. At the cost that they are at, I would say that it would be close enough for someone to build a custom gun on a Savage target action, and have a gun with a better barrel and stock for close to the same price, but if you getting a great deal it is hard to beat.

besides all of that, the gun is super fun to shoot, many use them to shoot in IBS/NBRSA 600 and 1000 yard matches, and the guns have proven to be competitive. Some clubs have factory class, and these things dominate in them. If you want more information check out www.savageshooters.com web site.

Last thing, on twist rate, IMO 1 in 8 is the only way to go, you can shoot bullets from 66 gr all the way up to 108, and even heavier. I just feel that a 1 in 12 twist 6BR is a waste, it limits bullets availble, and has nothing to gain over a 1 in 8.

On accuracy, the gun will shoot just like any Savage, with handloads tuned to the rifle, it should be able to shoot around a 1/2 MOA right out the box. The one I had would average 5 shoot 100 yard groups under 1/2 inch all day long, with a few groups that measured in the mid .3's. At 600 yards it should be able to shoot an average 4-5 inch groups or better.
 
I shoot 80 grainers in mine at 1 & 200 yards,8 twist. With this bullet it competes with the PPCs. for long range it shoots the 105VLds very well.
 
I just got one of these. I have shot it once. 100 rounds. I tried hornady 105 amax, berger 105 hybrids, and 107 matchkings and berger 88gr varmint. h4895 and varget. everything is under half an inch at 100 yards with the hotter loads (29.5gr h4895 and 30.3gr varget around .2 inch. I'll see if can do that consistently when i shoot again saturday.

The barrel is a bit long but i didn't have any balance issues. with the scope on, the cg is a couple inches foward of the action. i shot it free recoil and it did not want to lift off the rear bag. if you can get that rifle at half price, its a steal and even if you don't like it, you can sell it for a profit.
 
tenring said:
Get a LRPV Model 12, 6mmBR, 8 twist and be a happy shooter.

why the lrpv over the benchrest or f-class???

I was kind of thinking the f-class tbh...the shape of the stock looks like it would track the best...looks that way from my layman's eyes, anyway
 
nra-for-life said:
tenring said:
Get a LRPV Model 12, 6mmBR, 8 twist and be a happy shooter.

why the lrpv over the benchrest or f-class???

I was kind of thinking the f-class tbh...the shape of the stock looks like it would track the best...looks that way from my layman's eyes, anyway

I have been VERY VERY happy with my 6.5*284 F-Class Savage 1:8 twist, It is no custom but for a $1200 out of the box rifle it shoots real well and rides the bags okay,...not great but okay.
Wayne.
 
Are ya feelin' lucky? If you get one with a properly cut tenon in the action (90%) and a decent barrel (60% or so), you will have a heck of a good rifle for the price. If you have to go to an custom aftermarket barrel, add $450-550 to the price.

One of our field testers got one with overcut threads on the tenon. After the second factory barrel (Savage did replace the first), we realized that: either the barrel had to be shortened and rechambered so the threads could be recut (larger), or drastic machine work had to be done on the receiver.

Personally, I'd look for a used one and shoot it first! Have a gunsmith borescope the barrel, look at the chamber and check the barrel to action fit.
 
This is an older thread but is there any chance we can get an update. Benchrest vs the F-Class Savage in 6BR. How are these rifles doing?
 
I have one in 6BR. It has the dual port and shoots great. I have shot lots of 5 shot groups with mine and it runs between .25 and .5 in groups all day long and with the best loads and conditions it will sometimes shoot below .25. I did not like the Accutrigger so I put a Rifle Basics 2 trigger on it and added a pound of lead to the butt. Made a real gun out of it! For the money it is hard to beat. It is not a custom rifle but is a great casual, mid range, F-Class rifle and one heck of a nice varmint rifle.
 
I bought one last month and have had it to the range twice. First trip was with a crappy 18x Redfield beater scope and 2nd time was with a new Weaver 36x. I've just started working on loads, and the first trip out I just threw together some 70 gr Sierras and Varget. 2nd session was with some 80 gr Starkes and Varget.

All five shot groups at 100yds.
1st session: .847, .732, .685, .791, .319
2nd session: .342, .699, .552, .542, .388

Powder weights were increasing by 0.2 gr for each group.

I haven't fiddled with the trigger and don't plan too. It's well under a pound. When I feel pressure on the main trigger, it's gone.

The barrel cleans up surprisingly well.

I look forward to working with this gun.
 
nra-for-life said:
i was thinking of getting a model 12 benchrest in 6br with the 8 twist.... would you get the 8 twist or 12 twist.

justin
The Savage web site only shows the Model 12 6BR Benchrest coming with the 8 twist/29" barrel and the Model 12 6BR F Class coming with the 8 twist/30" barrel.

Maybe you can special order a 6BR 12 twist.
 
Forum Boss said:
If you get one with a decent barrel (60% or so), you will have a heck of a good rifle for the price. If you have to go to an custom aftermarket barrel, add $450-550 to the price.
I have two Savage Model 12 Target Rifles. The factory barrel on one is a great barrel, I think on par with a custom aftermarket barrel, it is extremely accurate and very consistent. The other one is like the Forum Boss says, the other 40% or so. Like he said I finally had to go to a custom aftermarket barrel to make that rifle a consistent and accurate rifle.
 
82boy said:
As well as any other Savage, for some reason there is a tolerance problem with the bolt heads, which can cause ejection problems, and it is magnified by short cases like the 6BR. Sharp Shooters Supply has been working to make aftermarket parts to fix this problem, and so far has gotten them to work well.
You are sure correct when you talk about the Savage ejection problems espically with my Savage Target 6BR. Thanks for the tip about Sharp Shooters Supply having aftermarket parts to fix this problem. I will give them a call.
 
The Savage Model 12 is very sensitive to action screw torque. The correct setting will turn it from a bummer to a hummer. Read this:


http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2012/12/tuning-savage-actions-using-action-screw-torque-settings/
 
snakepit said:
82boy said:
As well as any other Savage, for some reason there is a tolerance problem with the bolt heads, which can cause ejection problems, and it is magnified by short cases like the 6BR. Sharp Shooters Supply has been working to make aftermarket parts to fix this problem, and so far has gotten them to work well.
You are sure correct when you talk about the Savage ejection problems espically with my Savage Target 6BR. Thanks for the tip about Sharp Shooters Supply having aftermarket parts to fix this problem. I will give them a call.

PT&G makes them too. Easy and quick to deal with.
 

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