Savage F Class factory rifle?

[justin_hackett]

Has anyone heard anything on the new Savage F Class factory rifle in 6.5-284?

I'm looking at building up a target rifle in the 6.5-284, but recently saw Savage had one. Any thoughts on this rifle???

 

[BountyHunter]

Go to www.savageshooters.com. Think they are discussing a writeup in one of th magazines where it shot some very good groups at 500,one or two under 1" and most in the 2" range). sounds like a very good gun for the money.

I have one of the new LRPVs in 223 with 7 twist on the way.

BH

 

[Archermike]

This might be a really stupid question.... What is the difference in the 6.5-284WIN and the 6.5-284 NORMA?

I'm not crazy about a Savage,yet) but this rifle has me looking HARD!

 

[justin_hackett]

I read that review, but it was for a .308 that's pretty close to the same gun, minus the caliber difference. They're groups were great, but they only used 3 shots in each group. Who in the hell shoots a heavy barrled gun for 3 shots to verify accuracy?

 

[Austin]

Hay got it in front of me.April issue of shooting times.Good article.They were shooting handloads from .25"-1.44" at 100yds and .88"-6.88" at 500yds.Factory loads all .75" or less at 100 and 1.50"-2.63" at 500.Sierra 155grsMK,Hornady 168gr A-Max and 168gr HPBT,Sierra 168grMK and 175grMK,Hornady 178gr A-Max were used.Pritty gun to boot.

 

[Spotcheck_Billy]

Has anyone heard anything on the new Savage F Class factory rifle in 6.5-284?

I'm looking at building up a target rifle in the 6.5-284, but recently saw Savage had one. Any thoughts on this rifle???

I think that it'll be a great rifle for the F -Open class and will allow competitors a way to get into the class and be competitive at a reasonably low cost.

Be aware that the ugly and ungainly stock that is pictured in the photos that have appeared in Savage advertisements,and I believe the catalog also) does not represent what the final production model will look like. There was a lot of fuss made about the esthetics of that original stock and Savage listened. They changed its outline to a much more eye-pleasing look, but the ads were already printed with the old stock and it was too late to change because of printing deadlines, etc.

You can go over to the Savageshooters.net forum and perform a search to see the new stock. It's quite an improvement over the first one

My above comments do not reflect on the F/TR rifle. It's stock was good-to-go from the beginning and has remained unchanged.

 

[Rust]

Mike - The orginal case was the .284 Winchester and it was exactly that, a .284. Some folks decided it would be nice to neck down the .284 parent case to 6.5 and thus the 6.5 X 284 Winchester. This chambering is purely a wildcat, no SAAMI specs exist for it, no factory chambers for it. The winchester designation exists to differentiate it from other chamber designs. Such as...

The 6.5 X 284 Norma. Norma decided to standardize a "6.5 X 284" chambering. This cartridge is a SAAMI spec cartridge. Now just to avoid any infringement on the original Winchester parent case, Norma chose to spec slightly different dimensions on the case, it is slightly larger in diameter towards the base of the case.

 

[MrMister]

BountyHunter,

I can't find the gun on your link you posted. Nor can I find it anywhere else.

Do you have a direct link?

Thanks,

Steve

 

[Archermike]

The 6.5 X 284 Norma. Norma decided to standardize a "6.5 X 284" chambering. This cartridge is a SAAMI spec cartridge. Now just to avoid any infringement on the original Winchester parent case, Norma chose to spec slightly different dimensions on the case, it is slightly larger in diameter towards the base of the case.

Thanks Rust, I have seen in Midway that Norma and Nosler was offering loaded ammo in the 6.5-284win. If I'm reading this right... The ammo that's offered from Norma & Nosler will not work in the Savage F-class 6.5-284 Norma. Right or wrong?

 

[Spotcheck_Billy]

The 6.5 X 284 Norma. Norma decided to standardize a "6.5 X 284" chambering. This cartridge is a SAAMI spec cartridge. Now just to avoid any infringement on the original Winchester parent case, Norma chose to spec slightly different dimensions on the case, it is slightly larger in diameter towards the base of the case.

Thanks Rust, I have seen in Midway that Norma and Nosler was offering loaded ammo in the 6.5-284win. If I'm reading this right... The ammo that's offered from Norma & Nosler will not work in the Savage F-class 6.5-284 Norma. Right or wrong?

Wrong! 6.5-284 ammo is pretty much standardized now. Riflebuilders were using several different reamers when this cartridge was getting started but you can use any of the commercially available brass and loaded ammo in any rifle chambered for the 6.5-284 Norma. You can also neck down .284 Winchester brass and use it in a 6.5-284 Norma chamber with no problem. It will easily fireform to fit the SLIGHTLY oversize Norma dimension. You should read the 6.5-284 cartridge article that's on this board. It will tell you pretty much what you need to know about it.

 

[FrankintheLaurelMts]

Billy..I don't think the brass from all the different manufacturers are exactly the same in their wall thickness and especially in neck thickness..some need to be trimmed/turnned before they will work..it's my understanding from talking to lots of 1000 shooters at Williamsport that they don't particular care for anything but the old fashion WW brass...they've tried to make the others work but it seems to be a struggle.. My question to all of you is does anyone know what the twist is going to be ?? Also what the neck diameter is going to be..I sure hope it's not going to be .006 or more per side like some of the factory varminters are. I think it's great that SAVAGE is offering something like this..I wished they'd offer it in 6BR fast twist!! They will sell all they make...TOO BAD "BIG GREEN" is always behind..they'll offer one version in a year or two and complain about no market share...

 

[280man]

I spoke with Savage on 03/20/2007 they told me the barrel is a 30 inch 8 twist confirmed the new stock design and said they should be available in May 07

 

[Spotcheck_Billy]

Billy..I don't think the brass from all the different manufacturers are exactly the same in their wall thickness and especially in neck thickness..some need to be trimmed/turnned before they will work..it's my understanding from talking to lots of 1000 shooters at Williamsport that they don't particular care for anything but the old fashion WW brass...they've tried to make the others work but it seems to be a struggle.. My question to all of you is does anyone know what the twist is going to be ?? Also what the neck diameter is going to be..I sure hope it's not going to be .006 or more per side like some of the factory varminters are. I think it's great that SAVAGE is offering something like this..I wished they'd offer it in 6BR fast twist!! They will sell all they make...TOO BAD "BIG GREEN" is always behind..they'll offer one version in a year or two and complain about no market share...

Frank,
I never said that all 6.5-284 brass is "exactly the same". Who would ever make a statement like that when nobody's brass is "exactly" the same in wall thickness, capacity, etc. No, what I implied was that all of the commercially available 6.5-284 brass and factory loaded ammo is now compatible with the SAAMI dimensions for the 6.5-284 Norma cartridge. I own a 6.5-284 with a Bartlein barrel chambered with a PT&G 6.5-284 reamer with a SAAMI spec no neck turn dimension. I have tried Lapua, Norma, and Nosler brass and did not have to trim or neck turn any of it before shooting. BTW, I choose Lapua for its consistant quality, good availability, and decent price compared to the others.

The OP's question had to do with the fsctory chamber in the new Savage F-class 6.5-284 rifle - not the custom chambers that some of the shooters at places like Williamsport might choose. Remember, this is a factory rifle so the manufacturers will make sure that it chambers off-the-shelf brass and loaded ammunition. I haven't been able to get an example of this rifle in my hands as of yet, so needless to say I haven't been able to make a chamber casting to enable me to measure exactly what the neck diameter will be. All I can advise is - don't expect a custom tight-neck chamber in a factory production rifle. Actually, that should go without saying

The twist rate will be 1/8", that I do know unless for some unforseen reason Savage decides to change it at the last minute. Also, you might get your wish for a Savage target rifle chambered in 6mmBR. Their marketing department is contemplating a fast twist version for LR competition, and there is a strong faction of shooters who are lobbying for a slow twist version for point blank BR and varmint shooting. I have this information from a reliable source close to Savage management. You might want to check out the savageshooters.net forum every now and then for further developments.

 

[rhino]

I would have to change the barrel to 6.5x55. Other than that it looks nice.

RHINOUT!

 

[olsingleshot]

The new Savage 6.5x284 will begin production in May. So they should be available shortly there after.

 

[Hipshot]

I could not leave voice mail nor email due to their being "full" so I sent a letter to Savage, today, pleading for left handed models.

 

[MrMister]

Still waiting on a link that works!

 

[Marksman]

Still waiting on a link that works!

Towards the bottom.

http://www.savagearms.com/2007_pressrelease.htm

 

[MrMister]

Thanks!

I wonder if it'll come in other calibers?

 

[koger]

The new F-Class .308 did well in international competition in Ireland, out to 1250 meters on SavageShooters.com, Savage team used out of box .308 in all yardages, same gun with same load, using Berger 155 vld's, only competitor to do so,meadaled several times. Gun was not tweaked, trigger adjusted, load worked up and took to the matches and held there own against the best Europe had to offer, nuff said.