Savage Accutrigger replacement

[ftrrookie]

I love the rifles. Hate the triggers and after having problems with it on one of my FTRs I've decided to replace them. I'm thinking Rifle Basix "Sav-2" or the SSS "Competition Trigger". Leaning more towards the Sav-2 because of lower adjustment (4 oz as compared to 12 oz) but would like to hear some real world experiences with both.

Thanks

 

[JohnHenry]

The Sav-2 is no Jewell but I found it a notable improvement versus the Accutrigger. Could not get my Sav-2 to adjust to a safe 4 oz. but it did yield a consistent and safe 7 to 8 ounces.

 

[savageshooter86]

took me forever to adjust the Sav 2 down to 7 oz. Kept having safety issue with it firing on bolt closure etc..... Finally got it to where it was safe at 7 oz. I followed the instructions to a T and watched the video numerous times. Still not sure what I did to make it safe.

It was much better than the std Accutrigger. Now on this new rifle I have the target Accutrigger and so far no complaints

 

[smoking-brass]

I have both the sav-2 and SS competition trigger on my target rifles... I like the sav-2 trigger much better...the only thing it is not safe below 6 oz. Not a problem because it is 100 % more reliable than the accutrigger. Good to go!

 

[ftrrookie]

Both of my FTRs have the "target" accutriggers. Savage says you can adjust them down to 8 oz. I've not been able to get below 14 oz with them. But then I've never been able to get the lowest advertised weight on Jewells or Timnys in my Remys either. I can live with 8 oz

This weekend I started having problems with my 223. The accutrigger wouldn't lock in. I pulled the stock and had to adjust the spring a couple of times. I had the same thing happen on my 22LR with the standard accutrigger. It now has a Rifle Basix trigger in it.

 

[gotcha]

I use the SSS competition triggers. I'm perfectly happy with them even though they break at about 11 oz. (I'm kinda' Ham fisted anyway) Keep in mind the SSS trigger uses the original savage hanger bracket. It will probably need a bit of tweeking (mine did) to eliminate side play of trigger assy. on mounting pin. The side play, if not eliminated, will cause inconsistent sear engagement & thus a safety issue. Properly shimmed or tweeked the trigger reacts well to adjustment input. Haven't had to readjust at all. SSS covers the above issue in their instructions but doesn't include shims to correct. Caveat emptor.

 

[Nomad47]

When you set the Savage accu-triggers light you have to make sure you pull the trigger straight back or else the trigger locks up.

 

[LRPV]

When you set the Savage accu-triggers light you have to make sure you pull the trigger straight back or else the trigger locks up.

Yep

 

[DMC]

I have a Rifle Basix Sav-2 trigger on my Dasher, same as several people have said, I watched the video endlessly to see if i was missing something, and i was unable to get the weight down below 8oz. i think in the video it shows it going down to 6 oz ? any lighter then 8oz on mine, it fails to cock. i'll leave it where it is as its still an improvement over the factory trigger, but a jewel its not. also as mentioned by others there is a tremendous amount of side play in the trigger shoe which i don't like, so i'll have to shim it up.
All in all, its an improvent, and theres not many options for Savages so i'll take what i can get !

Safe Shooting

DMC

 

[snakepit]

Both of my FTRs have the "target" accutriggers. Savage says you can adjust them down to 8 oz. I've not been able to get below 14 oz with them. But then I've never been able to get the lowest advertised weight on Jewells or Timnys in my Remys either. I can live with 8 oz

I have a Savage FTR and a Savage F Class both with the Target Accutrigger and they are both set at 8 oz and I have had no problems with either one of them. I just rechecked them with my Lyman Digital Trigger Pull Measuring Guage and they were both 8 oz.

 

[snakepit]

When you set the Savage accu-triggers light you have to make sure you pull the trigger straight back or else the trigger locks up.

All this time I must have been pulling the Target Accutrigger straight back on my Savage FTR and F Class both set at 8 oz as I have not had a problem with the Accutrigger locking up. What conditions have you encountered when you would not pull a trigger straight back?

 

[DennisH]

When you set the Savage accu-triggers light you have to make sure you pull the trigger straight back or else the trigger locks up.

All this time I must have been pulling the Target Accutrigger straight back on my Savage FTR and F Class both set at 8 oz as I have not had a problem with the Accutrigger locking up. What conditions have you encountered when you would not pull a trigger straight back?

Pull is not smooth and binds a little. It's easy to train your self to pull straight back, just takes trigger time. The accu-trigger has a little left-right movement to begin with, just need to practice with it. I always make sure the sear has adequate clearance, they are the source of many problems.

I guess I have been lucky with the SAV-2's, I have installed them and adjusted all of them with no problem. Some did test my patience, but overall they were pretty easy. Same with a Jewell I installed on a Remmy, the smith gave up and I spent about 30 minutes on it to get it around 4oz's, almost 0 creep and no travel.

Dennis

 

[Nomad47]

When you set the Savage accu-triggers light you have to make sure you pull the trigger straight back or else the trigger locks up.

All this time I must have been pulling the Target Accutrigger straight back on my Savage FTR and F Class both set at 8 oz as I have not had a problem with the Accutrigger locking up. What conditions have you encountered when you would not pull a trigger straight back?

It wasn't me. It was a friend. I have my accu-triggers down around 6 oz, and they fire every time. But a friend tried and the trigger locked up 5 times in a row. We finally discovered it was his short stubby fingers that weren't pulling the trigger straight back.

 

[ftrrookie]

I have a Savage FTR and a Savage F Class both with the Target Accutrigger and they are both set at 8 oz and I have had no problems with either one of them. I just rechecked them with my Lyman Digital Trigger Pull Measuring Gauge and they were both 8 oz.
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If you've gotten your triggers down to 8 oz and they cock and lock everytime consider yourself very lucky. I know several ppl with them and not one of them has been able to get it that low out of the box. One guy did some filing and polishing and got his down.

I'm not having problems with my trigger pull. I know you have to pull straight back or it locks up. The problem I had was that after firing several rounds it wouldn't stay cocked. As I was pushing the bolt handle down you could see the whole mechanism moving to the uncocked/locked position. When I pulled the stock off I couldn't see any problems so I gave the adjustment spring a 1/4 turn and all was well, for about 18 rnds and it did it again. Quarter turn on the spring and it worked again. This is on my 223. So far the 308, which has more rnds down the tube, hasn't had this problem. But I did have the same problem with the accutrigger on my Savage MK2. I replaced it with a rifle basix trigger and no more problems.

I ordered the SAV-2 and if I like it I'll order another for the 308

 

[lal357]

the target accutriggers can be a pain i have 2 of them my 308 f t/r rrig cant get lower than 10oz. my 223 f t/r rig is set at 8 oz. but you have to bring the trigger straight back which is a good training aid(my wife has just started shooting f class). on my open class it a sav-2 i had it set at 4oz. worked fine but my son didnt like it said it was scary low (touch it and it was gone ) still safe i could work the bolt slap it off safe without a problem . i ended up setting it at 6 oz.

 

[snakepit]

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"If you've gotten your triggers down to 8 oz and they cock and lock everytime consider yourself very lucky. I know several ppl with them and not one of them has been able to get it that low out of the box. One guy did some filing and polishing and got his down".



All I know is that they are out of the box rifles with Accutriggers set at 8 oz with no modifications and I have no problems with them and the way I cock them. I have found that at 8 oz both of them will sometimes lock up if you slam the bolt hard and fast and then you have to recock the bolt if they lock up. But I do not shoot that way probably because of the threads I have read on this site in the past. I cock the bolt like many of the posters said to do to avoid problems and so far their advice has worked. I have fired a lot of rounds since I purchased these rifles and I am happy with the Accutriggers. Believe me if it was a problem I would replace them.

 

[rjtfroggy]

Little trick for the accu triggers, set it then put a drop of nail polish on the adjustment screw(spring) and it will stay put. I have 1 PTA set at 8 oz. no problems, a few set just under a pound and a couple just over a pound all pass the bump or drop test and the only time they lock up is if I screw up my trigger pull.

 

[fdshuster]

My problems with the Savage AccuTrigger was unintentional discharges. A model 12 trigger failed at a documented 1500 rounds fired, took it to my very qualified gunsmith (one of the few who will still work on triggers), and he adjusted it. It held for about 50 rounds fired then same problem. Tried the trigger from SSS, professionally installed, and had much the same problems with it. Bought a Rifle Basix Sav 2 & he installed & adjusted it. Worked fine for a couple hundred rounds, then the same problem over again. Close the bolt very gently ( I never slam them) and as the bolt handle reaches its' down limit, the rifle fires ! Cost me points and the chance to be in the money at several local match's. By this time I had a lot of $$$$$$ invested, and still did not have a safe and reliable trigger.

The other Savage trigger, on a pre-Accutrigger model 10, also failed at approximately 1300 rounds: unintentional discharges when closing the bolt. It was professionally replaced with the lower cost Rifle Basix.

I've gotta add: None of these triggers were ever set lower than 1#.

Good rifles, very accurate out of the box, but the triggers are junk.

 

[Nomad47]

That sure is odd, Frank. My 12 BVSS has 3118 rounds thru it and it has never fired by closing the bolt. Maybe I should "knock on wood".

 

[fdshuster]

Bill: I believe it's the luck of the draw when it applies to most things that are assembly line mass-produced. You could get a very good one, average, or downright poor.

If the same applies to the all important quality of a rifle barrel, this partial copy of an article that appeared in the January 2000 issue of "Precision Shooting" magazine illustrates the problem of believing that all factory rifle barrels (like triggers) are of the highest quality.