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This is also the sort of thread that causes members who otherwise would converse amiably about gun stuff to insult each other or use the ignore button.

I was always told growing up that you don't talk religion or politics in polite company because you'll make no new friends and can easily make enemies where there need be none. It's just so easy to be sucked in...
 
This is also the sort of thread that causes members who otherwise would converse amiably about gun stuff to insult each other or use the ignore button.

I was always told growing up that you don't talk religion or politics in polite company because you'll make no new friends and can easily make enemies where there need be none. It's just so easy to be sucked in...
Same here. But also marriage advice/problem cures. This one ALWAYS got you in trouble. A NEVER win. Religion, politics,and marriage I was told are taboo as a bartender.
 
Gina, I don’t know you, but I’m a longtime shooter, just not with the form of shooting I recently ok the plunge into. Mostly stock “as issued” 30 cal iron sight military rifle competitions. This whole F Class and Benchrest stuff is new to me but has been an unfulfilled passion for years. So forgive my newness.

But here’s the rub.
I live by a simple rule. “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire”. There’s been enough KNOWN voting machine glitches with Dominion software to absolutely warrant a closer look. In every jurisdiction that used it. And let the chips fall where they may. This can hurt or benefit either side, but for some reason, Democrats seem dead set opposed to any manual recheck of those jurisdictions. Why?

Some of the data doesn’t come close to matching pre election percentages. In 2016, the Clinton Campaign called for recounts in several States, and if I recall correctly, there was a concerted effort by that Campaign to convince Electors to become Faithless. Remember that?
She got her recounts, even once using a surrogate, the Green leader.

Trump should be allowed the exact same recourse, and even a bit more, because we had a certain voting system (Dominion), fail spectacularly that night. One big one was caught. I’d expect other instances weren’t. And if it ain’t checked, the question will linger and hang over people’s heads.

In Pennsylvania, the State Supreme Court issued an illegal ruling. They CAN’T change election law, only the Legislature can. I totally expect all those possibly hundreds of thousands of late arriving ballots from both Parties go be tossed as ineligible. Trump may take Pa.

Do I think he has enough ammo to win the Election? I hope so, but logic says he doesnt. He’ll win some States I expect. Pa, and maybe Ga? Possibly Mi or Wi, but I doubt all of them, and to stay as Pres, he needs all.

Gonna be an interesting next few weeks.
First and foremost, it is nice to correspond with an other member in a polite manner
I have said, and you can go back to my posts that Trump is welcome to protest the counts, that is his right.
I have no problem with that. What drives me up the wall, is that in all our history (at least my 76 years) I have never seen anything like what is going on with Trump's behavior and the Trump cult following, as seen sometimes on this web site. For trump to declare himself a winner, when the vote counts are not complete does not seat well with the history of the United States. AND then to have the members agreeing with him does not seat also.
Do I want to stir pot ? In away yes, just to show that there are other opinions. As I have said before I am a supporter o the 2nd amendment, I will work within the system and with other gun supporting organizations to keep that right.
you have a good night.
 
Now I’m really ticked!!! I wanted a new dog. I took the wife down to the shelter to look for a German Sheppard. I came home with a Shitzu! Now, the news shows Joe walking out of that same shelter with MY German Sheppard!!!! Poor dog is going to live in Washington!!
 
First and foremost, it is nice to correspond with an other member in a polite manner
I have said, and you can go back to my posts that Trump is welcome to protest the counts, that is his right.
I have no problem with that. What drives me up the wall, is that in all our history (at least my 76 years) I have never seen anything like what is going on with Trump's behavior and the Trump cult following, as seen sometimes on this web site. For trump to declare himself a winner, when the vote counts are not complete does not seat well with the history of the United States. AND then to have the members agreeing with him does not seat also.
Do I want to stir pot ? In away yes, just to show that there are other opinions. As I have said before I am a supporter o the 2nd amendment, I will work within the system and with other gun supporting organizations to keep that right.
you have a good night.
You must have missed this bit of news. I assume it's accurate but I won't swear it is.

Trey Trainor Federal Election Chair has gone on record with a bombshell announcement, following investigations into the election ballot count in Pennsylvania.

The FEC chair says, based on the info gathered from PA and elsewhere in the country, this presidential election is illegitimate.
 
Gina ,I was born in Fulda Germany Feb.25 1962 17years after ww2.On my mothers side of my blood line Grandparents ,Aunts,Uncles,and second relatives ALL EXPERIENCED TERROR FROM THE NAZIS !!! They were disarmed and refused any and all rights to freedom of speech against the government or any other idea.My mothers aunt laughed at a cartoon about Hitler and Goering one time in the presence of a young political officer and her hair turned gray in the two weeks she didn't sleep thinking any minute she would be drug out into the streets and shot.There is only ONE PARTY acting like this and it is the DEMOCRATS !Now I don't think you were there or anyone in your family to qualify any opinion or comparison relating the NAZIS ! Some will back me on this site when I say I'm pretty good for my word and that is I will turn you inside out on your next uneducated ,inexperienced claim involving the NAZIS !!
So you are threating me. ? Take a deep breath, relax. and think about what you just wrote and why you wrote it. You are reading in your family history. You do not know me, yet you want to "turn inside out" because you disagree with me. Kind of un-American.
Think about it
 
Ccrider lost me when he wouldn't face the facts that the Dem platform has enumerated the values that hold the 2nd, (and 1st) in contempt.
Really? Me have contempt for the first and second amendments? That is funny. Tell my wife and friends that know and have to listen to me that.
You should get to know your audience better before making such assumptions or unfounded assertions. I have and would defend one’s first amendment rights even if I do not agree with what they say. That is the only way that we can have true freedom of speech or religion. Pretty sure you have not to the extent that I have, but would you if given the chance?
About the only thing that I have said about the dems platform on the second amendment is that I have read it and it is a pipe dream. No person of sound mind could actually believe or support it.
 
First and foremost, it is nice to correspond with an other member in a polite manner
I have said, and you can go back to my posts that Trump is welcome to protest the counts, that is his right.
I have no problem with that. What drives me up the wall, is that in all our history (at least my 76 years) I have never seen anything like what is going on with Trump's behavior and the Trump cult following, as seen sometimes on this web site. For trump to declare himself a winner, when the vote counts are not complete does not seat well with the history of the United States. AND then to have the members agreeing with him does not seat also.
Do I want to stir pot ? In away yes, just to show that there are other opinions. As I have said before I am a supporter o the 2nd amendment, I will work within the system and with other gun supporting organizations to keep that right.
you have a good night.

Never seen it? Were you suffering from pre-senile dementia back in 2000? If you were you probably don't remember how Al Gore only wanted recounts in some Florida counties but not in others. Guess what counties those were and why he only wanted them in those counties. That's right, they were democratic counties and he needed a few more tombstone votes. This election is a bit different in that the fraud appears to be systemic and encompasses more than one state. A hand recount along with culling the tombstone, out of state and illegal ballots should clear things up. Don't worry your pretty little head, the lawyers have got this covered.
 
First and foremost, it is nice to correspond with an other member in a polite manner
I have said, and you can go back to my posts that Trump is welcome to protest the counts, that is his right.
I have no problem with that. What drives me up the wall, is that in all our history (at least my 76 years) I have never seen anything like what is going on with Trump's behavior and the Trump cult following, as seen sometimes on this web site. For trump to declare himself a winner, when the vote counts are not complete does not seat well with the history of the United States. AND then to have the members agreeing with him does not seat also.
Do I want to stir pot ? In away yes, just to show that there are other opinions. As I have said before I am a supporter o the 2nd amendment, I will work within the system and with other gun supporting organizations to keep that right.
you have a good night.
I have to ask, do you have the same problem with Joe Biden declaring victory and setting up the “office of the president elect” while also having his staff contacting foreign governments, like they went after general Flynn for, all before the votes are counted or state races decided?
 
You must have missed this bit of news. I assume it's accurate but I won't swear it is.

Trey Trainor Federal Election Chair has gone on record with a bombshell announcement, following investigations into the election ballot count in Pennsylvania.

The FEC chair says, based on the info gathered from PA and elsewhere in the country, this presidential election is illegitimate.
And he was appointed to that position a month before the election bt Trump. Can you trust him ?
 
Why is someone like "who's name is forever ignored" even on a firearm forum? Very simple, to derail threads, cause infighting, and separate otherwise civil, like minded folks. Perhaps this entity is a real person, perhaps several persons, who knows? I know enjoy this forum a lot better since taking snert's advice and simply IGNORE. I will not even give them the satisfaction of using their name. Be like snert - IGNORE. Concentrate and focus on what needs to be done. I have contacted both my Congressman, My Senator and my state representatives, state house and senate, and will continue to bug the living sh&t of them. Take 5 minutes of your day and do the same.
I can't for the life of me understand how
some one can love the shooting sport, believe in the 2nd ammendment, and stand up for American rights given to us by our constitution and the thousands of Vets that have given it all even see the other side and vote democratic or even speak of their name. Democrats or Republicans, they are at war in DC and made a living at it. Like Trump or not, he wants to drang the swamp on both sides.

It needs to be done, how it gets done is the question that no one has the answer for. All need changed, everyone one of them! The leader of the free world ( as we know it today) is the only person who gets changed every 4-8 years. We are crazy to think DC is going to change if only one person moves on.

No offense here, but supporting local politicians is important, but they are all owned buy someone or some party.

Doing the same thing every time expecting different results is the definition of insanity, that's where we are. Nothing is getting changed for the good. One party or the other gets change made every 4-8 years, then it changes again in the other path. This has gone one for years and years, party lines have changed in the past 20 years, but nothing changes. We fight the same fight on both sides every 4-8 years. Let's face it, the free leader of the world is not who is in control. It's the swamp in control that needs replaced.
 
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You must have missed this bit of news. I assume it's accurate but I won't swear it is.

Trey Trainor Federal Election Chair has gone on record with a bombshell announcement, following investigations into the election ballot count in Pennsylvania.

The FEC chair says, based on the info gathered from PA and elsewhere in the country, this presidential election is illegitimate.
Do you have link for this? I saw this article but not the info you refer to: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...eral-election-commission-official/ar-BB1aNhG4
 
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I just saw that Texas dems introduced 27 anti gun laws in that state. How can that be, Texas has to stand up and be counted to fight the influx of screwballs.

We don't consider anyone in Austin or Travis county as part of our state, and therefore don't follow any of their stupid laws.
Texas has 254 counties. 27 of them are Liberal / Socialist strong holds - all big urban area's. The rest of the 227 counties are pure Conservative strong holds.
I doubt we will have any negative gun laws pass here, the TSRA has very good support from all of us that support the 2A here. They try every Legislative session and lose!
 
Now I’m really ticked!!! I wanted a new dog. I took the wife down to the shelter to look for a German Sheppard. I came home with a Shitzu! Now, the news shows Joe walking out of that same shelter with MY German Sheppard!!!! Poor dog is going to live in Washington!!
I give the dog "Major" six months and he`ll wise up and run off. Jeff
 
Good morning gang, Well despite some and there effort this thread is still here. I think that we use the ignore button and also ignore using any mention of the wreckers. On the lighter side, I just got back from Lowe`s and having a political discussion with the cashier. We agreed that we were both irredeemable deplorables and Trump chumps. She went onto say she was also a white supremacist. I busted out laughing, she`s black. But someone called her that when they over heard a conversation she was having. So there you have it a BLACK White supremacist. I`ve heard it all now. Jeff
 
Good morning gang, Well despite some and there effort this thread is still here. I think that we use the ignore button and also ignore using any mention of the wreckers. On the lighter side, I just got back from Lowe`s and having a political discussion with the cashier. We agreed that we were both irredeemable deplorables and Trump chumps. She went onto say she was also a white supremacist. I busted out laughing, she`s black. But someone called her that when they over heard a conversation she was having. So there you have it a BLACK White supremacist. I`ve heard it all now. Jeff
It is so ironic that the left calls Trump a racist. Yet I see all races supporting him, he has found away for the middle east to get along. Just look at south Texas Hispanic vote surprised the D-party with the support of the R-party and Trump. Frankly the D's got a little caught off guard. ( i guess they forgot to canvas the graveyards like they did for LBJ or the box 13 got lost in the mail)
I talk with people all around the world and another funny thing i see is Trump has supporters in other countries. Europe, Asia, middle east, What I see is people who want true freedom support him. While the people who support socialist and communist ways hate him.
I was told by someone in a former communist nation they saw this USA election as really a vote for good vs evil. I have spoken with them since and they double down on the statement. Was told to look at what is happening with a open mind .
I think they are right. It really is good vs evil.
 
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