Sad Day for 2A

[338 dude]

Whao there big fella! Slow down! I was trying to give Mills a little lift. I’m not accepting this! We have to see what happens in the courts.
I DO spend a lot of time “perdigitating”. This is a Chess game, not checkers. You have to think 6 moves ahead. There are more than a few good reasons I moved to Texas last year. Biden’s followers in Delaware have been growing stronger. They almost passed a ban last year. I continue to support the fight here but “the enemy is inside the wire” and right thinking people are outnumbered 10 to one.
Down in Texas, our local Sheriff announced that he supports the 2nd and WILL NOT enforce new laws of confiscation, if “they” get them passed.
My Texas house is on the edge of nowhere, far from the crowded cities and their problems. We’ll all see what happens in the coming months but prepare yourselves for the worst while hoping for the best.

ALSO!! I’m trying to keep it zipped. I got the humor thread locked by crossing the line. (Sorry Boss)

I’m sorry for doubting you Josh I guess I have a checkers mentality and ready to fight at the drop of a hat

 

[jackson1]

Sure seems like a lot of fellas here are already reaching for their ankles. Anyone that truly believes in democracy would never accept this crap as legitimate....

I agree, but I have no plan. Wish there was a way for individual's to have their voices heard against what has happened and will continue. Oh yeah we just had an election sort of. Going to make some changes to my stock portfolio and more gold. Maybe a vacation at a re-education camp. See many of you there.

 

[CharlieNC]

Republicans will do what they are best at; sitting on their hands and watching the liberal agenda move forward. my observation since 1972 when I started following politics and voted for the first time.

Their excuse is they need to reach across the isle and work with the Democrats, in theory thats nice. Think about this: When Bush II got in, he invited the Democrat Senators to the WH to let them know he was willing to work with them. Fast forward to Obama, very early on I recall him standing at the podium in the WH stating "We won" and "The Republicans will just have to accept it" The Democrats are and always have been better at politics than the Republicans.

Now look at 2016, all three branches owned by the Republicans, the opportunity to have voter ID, accross state lines CCW recognition, health care reform, so on and so forth never happened. WHy? because guys like that Fu@%#$G Ryan were sabotaging us, not Trump, us. The only time in my life I did not vote whas when Romney and Ryan ran.

I will give the Democrats credit, they stand lock-step on most votes where the Republicans have to deal with the likes of Romney and McCain'ish senators.

Biden didn't defeat Trump, Trump with his 12year old girl like twitter reaction to every and anything just to be heard, the fight with the fake news that exploited his every move in a negative way and acknowledged near zero of his accomplishments, combined with his inability to shut the EFF up did him in.

Combine that with his performance at the first debate where he acted like a cross between a child with ADHD and Tourettes. He clearly did not denounce the white supremacy when he had the opportunity, insetad he opted for the "stand down and stand back" statement that implied to many that they were taking orders from and had the support of him. Now I don't believe he was a racist, but he may have alienated many that night.

I voted Trump twice and would have voted for him to be President for life if given the opportunity. I think he has been the best President we have had in a long time. But he lost because of the arrogant way he presented himself and the opposition in control of the propaganda machine capitalized on that weakness.

Sorry for the long rant.

I agree completely and feel the same way. So what do we do? The rinos need a strong party leader who can get them to band together and fight just as dirty as the dems; this is a war for our country, not a miss congeniality contest. Otherwise the libs will continue to rob both our freedom and our pockets.

 

[luckeeshot]

I often wonder what this country would be like if our forefathers had the attitude like some i here on here about 250 years ago

I'm afraid to say it but the answer would be what country

 

[L.Sherm]

My point exactly, I for one am not watching the media or listening to them.
I will not concede untill trump does and if I say "if" he does i absolutely will not recognize Hiden as my president.

 

[rr2030]

I agree completely and feel the same way. So what do we do? The rinos need a strong party leader who can get them to band together and fight just as dirty as the dems; this is a war for our country, not a miss congeniality contest. Otherwise the libs will continue to rob both our freedom and our pockets.

Personally, I feel they, and by they I refer to the week conservatives, have over decades allowed the liberals to control all the media, of every type, and they allowed the radical liberal college professors, to indoctrinate next generation North Americans with what I can only refer to as crazy idealism's, to the point beyond any reconciliation.

The fat lady is in the bull-pen warming up.

 

[L.Sherm]

But Trump will hit it out of the park.

 

[AckleymanII]

An attorney speaks, current state of election results, and future of elections in our country

Just got off a conference call with Trump's lawyers and Election Campaign Team

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[Chiquita]

I really don't think the 2A will be erased or taken away. However, the dems will have stupid laws and rules that will make it almost impractical to enjoy the sport. Taxes, fees, shipping charges,...

 

[Lee in Texas]

I think that with a Republican senate and Supreme Court, the 2nd Amendment will survive.

 

[J.d. Popkes]

WOW, where are you living? Must still be a nice place cause I've been living amounst them for years!
Anyone that didn't see this coming has had their head in the sand.

Keith

Not sure how anyone can be shocked. Trump barely won those swing states in 16’

Hillary won popular vote

obama was elected......... twice.

shocked, no tragic, yes.

 

[joshb]

I’m sorry for doubting you Josh I guess I have a checkers mentality and ready to fight at the drop of a hat

I feel ya. I swing from being depressed to fighting mad? Biden made his speech in Wilmington, about 10 miles from my house. Ya think that was pleasant? I grew up around here, hunting and fishing. Can’t do that anymore!
We all need to stay as calm as we can and work on ways to legally protect our rights.

 

[gme]

there's a lot more to the story
https://parler.com/post/d3a31c4974f...TFYngKaO6Y9RG02BFVSqlu4HcAyROZNRU7xFLpT1Dth_g

 

[AckleymanII]

The Media does not call the elections...the election has not been certified. It is all too obvious that Trump won. An even bigger problem is that voter fraud is so bad, that unless solid election laws are enacted NOW, the electoral process is over, thus dies a true Republic. This needs to get fixed for future generations where we are dead and gone.

First, they need to discover all the ways they are cheating, and they now have proof of many ways the cheat was carried out.

 

[AckleymanII]

The wife just sent this to me, 125% voter turn out, these are some amazing statistics to say the least:

Recount Contested States Or Prepare For War: Win Or Lose, Half Of America Will Not Trust Election Results Without Complete Transparency​

- Democrats Terrified Of Double Checking & Verifying Results In Contested States​

There are legal challenges up the wazoo in regards to the 2020 general election, where Team Trump, along with other election integrity organizations and groups are challenging the legality of hundreds of thousands of votes between multiple states. All states that can and will affect the final outcome of the election.
While both candidates are declaring victory, with Biden using the vote tallies as they stand which puts him ahead but ignoring the voting irregularities in over half a dozen states, and Trump stating that when "legal" votes only are counted, he wins.

President Trump is challenging "illegal" votes in Nevada, the suddenly appearing votes in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Arizona. Multiple news outlets are refusing to call AZ for Biden, while two, FOX News and AP have called that state for Biden, despite even liberal pollsters demanding they retract it.

To say things are a huge mess is a massive understatement, and these challenges against states for fraud, for violating their own state constitutions, for mysteriously appearing ballots at 4 am in the morning, etc.... are likely to see the majority of them be fought all the way to the Supreme Court.

As just an example of why conservatives want President Trump's campaign and other election integrity groups to continue to fight until everything is transparent, all legal votes are counted and all illegal and fraudulent votes thrown out, can be seen in the chart below.




All states list above, barring Georgia showed a turn out with more of a percentage than there are registered voters. Either some voted more than once in those states, or people voted illegally, or as with every election and seen in multiple states in the 2020 election, dead people are voting for Democrats.

The Trump campaign has issued a statement covering a number of issues they are going to be litigating:

“This election is not over. The false projection of Joe Biden as the winner is based on results in four states that are far from final. Georgia is headed for a recount, where we are confident we will find ballots improperly harvested, and where President Trump will ultimately prevail. There were many irregularities in Pennsylvania, including having election officials prevent our volunteer legal observers from having meaningful access to vote counting locations. We prevailed in court on our challenge, but were deprived of valuable time and denied the transparency we are entitled to under state law. In Nevada, there appear to be thousands of individuals who improperly cast mail ballots. Finally, the President is on course to win Arizona outright, despite the irresponsible and erroneous ‘calling’ of the state for Biden by Fox News and the Associated Press. Biden is relying on these states for his phony claim on the White House, but once the election is final, President Trump will be re-elected.”

– Matt Morgan, Trump 2020 campaign general counsel

That is just one quick example of election antics that will go before a court, and appellant court, then likely the Supreme Court which could order all states in question to recount their votes, and verify them to ensure they were cast legally.

Which brings us to the headlined point.



NO MATTER WHO WINS, 1/2 THE NATION WILL DISTRUST RESULTS

If the contested states are ordered to recount, verify, dump illegal ballots, and end up favoring president Trump, then Democrats and liberals across the US will claim voter fraud, despite the fact that double checking, and transparency, will negate any chance of the fraud that started these legal challenges, because the media refuses to tell Americans the extent of the fraudulent voting practices, and counting practices where certified members from both sides of aisle are refused access to observe.

There will be unrest.

Should Joe Biden win without the courts ordering recounts and states to address the illegalities that are still being uncovered, then conservatives and Trump supporters will not trust nor accept the election results.

One of the reasons is shown in a letter from Trump campaign lawyers, to Attorney General Bill Barr, shown below:



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In a subsequent report, they project another 6,000 to be found to be fraudulent.

This is the type of fraud that will guarantee that conservatives will not accept the outcomes without all the contested areas be forced, ordered by the courts, to verify, each and every vote.

There will be unrest because conservatives have just about had it with rigged elections, and media malpractice by declaring a winner of a state that hasn't even been called yet, just to gaslight America into thinking Biden has more of a lead than he actually does.

Frankly, the only way to avoid the cold civil war this nation has been waging, from turning even more hot and bloody, is for the courts accept all the challenges to the election results, orders the states in question to recount, verify and toss any illegal votes, and Biden still leads and wins.

Unlike Liberals, if all contested states are ordered to recount, verifying the legality of every vote and dumping all illegal votes, only accepting votes cast legally, and allowing GOP observers to witness every step of the process, and Biden still ends up ahead, and ultimately winning, then conservatives won't spend 4 years screaming that Biden will be an "illegitimate" President, as liberals have done the past four years.

Conservatives want integrity of the elections, period. If that level of transparency is adhered to, then conservatives will accept the outcome without rioting, burning down cities, and acting like spoiled brats that cannot accept a loss.

Not saying conservatives will ever be happy with a Biden Presidency, just saying that is conservatives can be guarantee and can see the process is transparent, they will accept, if not like, the results.

That is far better than what we have seen from liberals ever since 2016 when Hillary Clinton lost the election.

Assuring the results are correct and legal is about the only thing conservatives will accept at this point, yet should courts order this to happen, liberals will definitely riot, as they have been doing since election night, despite the claims by the media that Biden is ahead and the assured winner.

A good question for liberals whining about President Trump contesting states that have verifiable examples of election irregularities, would be to ask them "Why does double-checking the results for accuracy, anger you so much?"

I would be willing to bet they do not have an on-point answer to that.

BOTTOM LINE

Make no mistake, the last thing liberals want, including the media and Democrat politicians, is the "right" side of the nation peeved and ready to rumble, all because Democrats fight against double-checking the results because they are scared that without the fraudulent, dead, and illegal votes, they will not win.

Georgia is already instigating an automatic recount due to the close nature of the race, even though the state has not been called yet for either candidate.

The other states that had more of a turnout than they had registered voters include; Nevada, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Arizona.

Manually recount them all to guarantee the integrity of the election, or prepare for the cold civil war in America to go hot, sooner rather than later.

https://allnewspipeline.com/Recount_Contested_States_Or_Prepare_For_War.php

Recount Contested States Or Prepare For War: Win Or Lose, Half Of America Will Not Trust Election Results Without Complete Transparency All states listed above, barring Georgia showed a turn out with more of a percentage than there are registered voters. Either some voted more than once in those states, or people voted illegally, or as with every election and seen in multiple states in the 2020 election, dead people are voting for Democrats. The Trump campaign has issued a statement covering a number of issues they are going to ... allnewspipeline.com

 

[jdh47]

As much as the democrats would love, this election is not over and Biden is not President Elect. The media has appointed him but the entire election is still in conflict.

28 States used a software firm to count votes that Nancy Pelosi is heavily invested in and George Soros owns. There are huge concerns about voter fraud in many states and Nevada is likely to go to Trump due to election fraud. There is still much concern about Senate and House seats that hang in the balance as states somehow keep finding votes for democrats instead of republicans.

This was all forecast by the media before the election. They warned that in person voting would be huge for Trump but the mail in voting would be huge for Biden which is nonsense of the first order. Finding 300K plus votes for Biden at 4AM in the morning with none for Trump is statistically impossible.

It is incogitable that a mentally challenged individual that did not campaign and had the voter appeal of a skunk managed to beat a very popular sitting President that drew crowds of over 15K everywhere he went. True, the left hates him because he has made inroads in ushering our Republic back toward the constitutional governance that was envisioned by the founding fathers but it is my opinion that a plurality of legal voters did not abandon him. Also it is evidenced by the huge support for conservative candidates for house and senate races across the nation.

If this election is somehow allowed to be stolen by the left it will put our country on a path to be the largest Banana Republic on the planet and elections from now on will be won by whomever can cheat the best. This must be dealt with now and it may cause great consternation for those invested in Biden's becoming president but the election integrity must be put right in order to save the union.

 

[D Coots]

The last 2 posts sure have brighted my day.

Thanks
Dave

 

[rr2030]

I think that with a Republican senate and Supreme Court, the 2nd Amendment will survive.

For now. But make no mistake it will go away in all but namesake. maybe not right away, but in the future.

 

[rr2030]

They SHOULD, RE-Vote, ALL, the States in "question" of, CHEATING !!! ( With, Military and Civillian OBSERVERS from, both Parties !! )
I AGREE with, Ackleyman ! But believe that, IT's too LATE to look at, OLD Ballots ! They have been MIXED UP with, the GOOD Ballots, by NOW ! The Dem Anarchists that, set THIS chit, UP,.. aren't,.. DUMB !!
WAKE the FK up, People, YOU'VE been,.. HAD,.. by "Professionals" at, this !

If only in 2016-17 the Republicans passed a voter ID law, we may not be in this predicament we find ourselves in now.

I think about something along the lines of a registration system that verifies you are eligible to vote. Then you are issued a credit card type of voter pass. You set up a pin, you choose three security questions. Then when you go vote, slip the card in the slot, enter the PIN, answer all three questions and your ballot pops-up. Immediately after, you can verify your vote has not been changes and has been counted.

It can't be that difficult technology wise, however the desire to do so must exist and be supported by the media, the ones really in control.

Last night I watched the movie Shooter, horrible movie compared to the outstanding book (Point of Impact) it was loosely based on. One thing stuck with me though; Ned Betty, as the Senator from Montana said, "there are no Republicans or Democrats, only those that have and those that have not"

I believe this to be true, and Trump was a threat to that system of privilege, and now he is gone, think about that ...

 

[JTEX]

Ok I will bite.

What can we do? STOP OBEYING THEM. When the ATF starts telling everyone that they are enforcing the new "executive orders" tell them to go pound sand.

But, you know what? Gun owners are the FIRST ones to roll over and are the FIRST people to be the MOST compliant with these stupid "executive orders". I hear the gun nerds at gun shows arguing about how they can better comply to the ATF when the ATF has no Constitutional authority at all!! What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED do these bureaucrats not understand? Gun owners have no fight in them at all as a group. They are just as compliant to Big Brother and his tyranny as the liberals they condemn on a daily basis.

That's the truth.

Okay! You go first!