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S&B and March, head to head...

Here is a fair and unbiased comparison between 2 of the absolute finest scopes for target shooting.
I did a side by side comparison so there was no advantage for either scope.
The March is the 10 - 60X model
The Schmidt & Bender is the 12.5 - 50X model

Optics
Both scopes were set at X50 for a fair comparison.
The S&B has a brighter picture throughout its mag range. This is very nice at lower mag, but at max or very near max the brightness tends to give the image a hazy effect. Still very, very usable, but a little hazy none the less.
The March has a slightly darker image throughout its mag range but at maximum,or in ths case X50) that means that the image never has that hazy look of the S&B. Also, the resolution and contrast of the March is better than the S&B. At X50 this gives a definite 'seeing' advantage to the March. I had several other people look through both to confirm this.

FOV
The S&B has a far greater FOV that then March. I didn’t measure this exactly, but its roughly double. For those that find it hard to locate your target,at X50 this can be tricky) the S&B gives you a definite advantage.

Low Light
Here the March is good, but the S&B is outstanding. I have no idea how they do it, but the S&B allows you to see better in low light than you can with your bare eyes. I'm guessing this is the trade off with the slight 'hazy' image I mentioned earlier. So, if you shoot in low light, the S&B is streets ahead here.

Reticules
While both companies offer several choices, they tend to have the same thickness dots and lines. The March scopes have a line thickness of half that of the S&B. So, if you have poor eyes, the March might be tricky, but if you have good eyes then the March allows finer bullet placement,the cross hairs are really very, very fine).

Dials and Movements
The S&B dials look and move superbly. The March dials look much the same as any other scope, but they move very well too. If looks matter, the S&B wins this. BUT, the S&B has ¼ MOA per click, and the March 1/8 MOA per click. If you shoot airguns this may not make a big difference, but if you also shoot centrefire over 200m, then it makes a difference to absolute bullet placement. That said, due to the S&B 34mm tube, it has a massive adjustment range, well over double the March's.

Costs
Very similar. March and S&B will be around £1800

POI Hold
Both are faultless

Weight and Size
The S&B is a little heavier and a little larger. The biggest issue is that it also has a 34mm tube. This makes buying mounts difficult,rare) and very expensive. The March has a 30mm tube which makes it a lot easier.

Parralax Adj
Both scopes focus down to 10m so are usable for air or firearms. S&B also make a dedicated scope that has a focus range of 7m to 70m. As the whole dial covers just this small distance, it allows absolute precision for range finders.

My Conclusion
While they are both absolutely superb scopes and either one would sit happily on any of my airguns or centrefires, if you are after the worlds finest target scope it simply has to be the March. If however you prefer the worlds finest high mag hunting scope, it has to be the S&B.

Frazzle
 
The S&B version tested is the PM11 version, basically this is the centrefire version with the parallax being 10m to 1000m then infinity. Its black. The Airgun FT version is silver and has a parallax setting of 7m to 70m only. Optics are the same in both scopes.


The warrenty.

March is a 5 year for the new buyer only. S&B is 5 years transferable. So, if you buy new they are the same, if you buy 2nd hand they are not. Scopes of this quality dont tend to go wrong. This wouldnt sway a decision for me, but every one is different.

Frazzle
 
The elevation is 280 clicks making 70 MOA in total. This is a true 1000m scope.
It has excellent dials which rotate 2 times fully. On the 2nd rotation the dial has a yellow band that appears. This allows you to shoot from 100M one day and 1000M the next without ever needing to remount the scope and having an easy time getting back to the relevent zero.

Frazzle
 
Mine is the SFP model. While there are obvious differences in the FFP and SFP models, none of these differences would have come in to my review as i did all tests at X50.

Frazzle
 
Competition shooters are mostly interested in how well bullet holes can be resolved at long distance, under good conditions. How about a comparasion of each - say at 600 yards using 6mm or larger bullets, with side by side comparison?
 
i will certainly try this test, but i already know which will win.
The March has better resolution and contrast and at X50 i was able to 'examine' wood grain at 250m,happened to be a neighbours wood grain, so best we dont tell him). The march did a better job than the S&B and dont forget, the March has another X10 more to go. Without a doubt, the S&B would be very, very good at resolcing distance bullet holes, but the March is top dog.

Frazzle
 
which reticle is in the March?

Does it have the target knobs or tactical knobs?

Does anyone care to comment on the target vs. tactical March knobs?

ERIC
 
Great report!!! I am still waiting on my Schmidt and bender 12.5-50 PMII. Mine will have the 1/8 m.o.a per click though and not the 1/4 yours has.That March must be a great scope though as everyone seems to love them.
Doesn't Schmidt and Bender has a 10 year warranty, not 5)?
Thanks again for taking the time to compare and report..
 
Re: S&B and March, head to head...

i looked through a March and i wasnt in AWE thats for sure. To be really honest, i thought the Bushnell 4200 i looked through right after the Marched looked better. Although the march was on 42 power and the bushnell was on 30 power. Maybe thats why?? I was so impressed with the 4200 i bought one. I may try a nightforce sometime soon, but i will not spend the cash for a March. I just didnt see it. I am no expert though so take what i say for what its worth!! Lee
 
Re: S&B and March, head to head...

pfinney said:
FOV
The S&B has a far greater FOV that then March. I didn’t measure this exactly, but its roughly double. For those that find it hard to locate your target,at X50 this can be tricky) the S&B gives you a definite advantage.

Parralax Adj
Both scopes focus down to 10m so are usable for air or firearms. S&B also make a dedicated scope that has a focus range of 7m to 70m. As the whole dial covers just this small distance, it allows absolute precision for range finders.

razzle


Which one do you think that will be better for range finding at 55 yards, considering using 60x on the March.

Can you test the POI with temperature fluctuations?

Congratulations for this excellent post.

Miguel
 

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