I think "bitching" is a bit of a stretch. The OP asked if anyone else has had the experience he's having with an order from Hunt's. I and another poster replied that we had the very same experience, i.e. long turnaround times, unresponsiveness to requests for information, and ultimately cancellation of the order. There was no suggestion that we lost any money, in fact my order was promptly cancelled and my money refunded. My response was factual - I waited 5 weeks without any communication whatever about the status of my order, in spite of numerous requests to Hunt's. In my mind, that's a poor business practice...nothing more, nothing less.I’m not gonna make excuses or assumptions but I am gonna tell you that Ryan Hunt will not screw you out of your money. He’s a stand up guy and very good at what he does. If he doesn’t have any brass he can’t provide you with hydroformed brass. Chances are he goes through more brass in a month than the people here bitching will go through in a lifetime.
He needs to tell folks if he doesn't have brass and answer his phone and emails nobody is bitching and if the OP was bitching he'd have every right too. A month of no comms is a no go to me I'll find someone who wants my business and will communicate with their customers.I’m not gonna make excuses or assumptions but I am gonna tell you that Ryan Hunt will not screw you out of your money. He’s a stand up guy and very good at what he does. If he doesn’t have any brass he can’t provide you with hydroformed brass. Chances are he goes through more brass in a month than the people here bitching will go through in a lifetime.
I’m not insinuating that he would cheat anyone but he doesn’t do much to boost customer confidence when he doesn’t reply to requests for information in regards to an outstanding order that has been payed for since June.Ryan isn't the kind of guy to cheat anyone. But he does owe customers good communication. The only time I've had business with him, he got my order to me quick and there was good communication. Good luck guys.
I don’t have a issue waiting for a product to be delivered. I know things get screwed up sometimes and it takes longer than it should. My big issue is that when I was able to contact him several weeks ago he told me that my brass was sitting on the bench in front of him ready to go and would be shipped that Friday or Monday which never happened. Since that time what contact I have had with him amounted to when I get back to the shop I’ll check into it and get right back with you which has never happened. Just this morning after posting on accurate Shooter last night he replied to one of my messages stating that the shop is closed until Monday, November 22 for Whitetail season, he says he will be in answering calls and emails Monday morning so let’s hope he follows through. Ryan has a good reputation in the shooting community which is why I ordered from him and I’m sure his product is outstanding but being honest to customers in my opinion is the most important part of a business. If there was a issue with my order and it got screwed up or delayed for some reason I would have no problem with him saying look I’m sorry but there’s been an issue and your order will be delayed a couple months. I would much rather know the truth than be strung along without any concrete answers. Hopefully this will all get sorted out quickly.Ryan is a good guy. I am sure business volume got out of hand and he is trying very hard to catch up.
I also run a small business. It is not shooting related. When I get behind I spend more time working and less time on good customer service. I know it hurts me somewhat, but I also have to be able to work in order for things to get done. I only deal with about 30 calls a day and each invoice is in the $10k-$200k range. It takes me roughly 4-6 hrs per day to deal with phone and email. Imagine being in a business where each transaction is anywhere from a couple hundred to a few thousand. The volume of orders would be a massive amount more than mine.
When you overbook orders you feel like a failure and do everything in your power to get caught up. Ultimately, what happens is customers wait longer than they normally would. The patient ones get anxious and the impatient ones get pissed. The more behind you get the more time you spend dealing with pissed customers and the less work gets done. It becomes a self fulfilling prophesy.
I have done a fair amount of business with Ryan as well as several other gunsmiths. Ryan is a good guy and runs an honest business. The reality is that sometimes the owner of a business screws up and customers get upset. (It appears by reading the thread that the lack of communication and either some supply issues or labor shortages are the issue here.) We ultimately have to do what we can to right the wrong and take our lumps. We oftentimes are trying very hard to provide a good service and realize we screwed up. It hurts no one more than us as the business owner, as word of mouth (or internet) is everything in recent times.
In the end it often takes a lot of time and effort to fix even a small business mistake for a small shop. I'm not personally friends with Ryan, but I have never had a bad interaction with him. His communication is usually very good as well. His work is top notch.
Having said that, if there is someone else that you would rather do business with, I would not fault you. Dealing with a small company, especially when they are busy, is not the same as dealing with a large, well run company. The experience is not better or worse, it is just different. Some people prefer one over the other.
I'm certain Ryan will get things sorted out but it may take some time. No one is going to get permanently screwed out of their money. The other part that I have no idea about is the supply chain and how that could be effecting his business. It's a lot of stuff to manage for one or two people, especially if you accidentally overpromise a little bit while anticipating that things will go smoothly with no setbacks. Almost nothing in business goes smoothly with zero setbacks. It is just part of it.
Given that additional info, I understand and agree completely. I hope HLR gets things sorted out for you quickly.I don’t have a issue waiting for a product to be delivered. I know things get screwed up sometimes and it takes longer than it should. My big issue is that when I was able to contact him several weeks ago he told me that my brass was sitting on the bench in front of him ready to go and would be shipped that Friday or Monday which never happened. Since that time what contact I have had with him amounted to when I get back to the shop I’ll check into it and get right back with you which has never happened. Just this morning after posting on accurate Shooter last night he replied to one of my messages stating that the shop is closed until Monday, November 22 for Whitetail season, he says he will be in answering calls and emails Monday morning so let’s hope he follows through. Ryan has a good reputation in the shooting community which is why I ordered from him and I’m sure his product is outstanding but being honest to customers in my opinion is the most important part of a business. If there was a issue with my order and it got screwed up or delayed for some reason I would have no problem with him saying look I’m sorry but there’s been an issue and your order will be delayed a couple months. I would much rather know the truth than be strung along without any concrete answers. Hopefully this will all get sorted out quickly.