Well back in mid 80's i bought a new Ruger 77V in 22-250, much before I had studied the differences between Rem 700's and perhaps the later Savage actions.
So question is - what are the limitations of this action wrt accuracy compared to the Rem 700's.
I had spent many hours developing loads for it back then but only with basic RCBS FL dies/seater. So despite my attention to precision in what i was doing then, i'm convinced my reloads were not all that precision due to likely too much neck tension, likely concentricity issues from the seater, the FL die likely leaving the case smaller than desirable or perhaps banana shaping the case. However these issues I can now fix with perhaps a Forster shoulder bump die and Wilson seater.
So the question is - what really can you expect from this action, if it had a decent barrel on it? Is it worth re-barreling when the time comes which may be now, or better to start with a different action, like inherently this is not the action to start with?
I think i could never really get it to quite shoot a 1/2 MOA group at 100 yds consistently maybe .625" was more like it, maybe once or twice for 5 shots was .5" group. It does have a Canjar double-set trigger that i "really really" like - especially when shooting offhand at 100-150 yds (bullet leaves when you want it too, kind of at the moment the hairs "float" over a soda can" as your trying to hold steady at that distance - ok pretty darn tough for me). Probably has 400-500 bullets down the factory tube, and perhaps a damaged crown from dragging a bronze brush back through the muzzle, which is why i think accuracy could be compromised. Action is not pillar bedded nor have i done a DOE on action screw tension (ive read a lot recently!)
Sorry about the long winded discussion but it sets some context. Anyway - I would appreciate any thoughts about this rifle in general. My uncle who was a gunsmith back then, said 9 times out of 10 the Remington 700 would shoot better out of the box than the Ruger.
thx,
Paul
So question is - what are the limitations of this action wrt accuracy compared to the Rem 700's.
I had spent many hours developing loads for it back then but only with basic RCBS FL dies/seater. So despite my attention to precision in what i was doing then, i'm convinced my reloads were not all that precision due to likely too much neck tension, likely concentricity issues from the seater, the FL die likely leaving the case smaller than desirable or perhaps banana shaping the case. However these issues I can now fix with perhaps a Forster shoulder bump die and Wilson seater.
So the question is - what really can you expect from this action, if it had a decent barrel on it? Is it worth re-barreling when the time comes which may be now, or better to start with a different action, like inherently this is not the action to start with?
I think i could never really get it to quite shoot a 1/2 MOA group at 100 yds consistently maybe .625" was more like it, maybe once or twice for 5 shots was .5" group. It does have a Canjar double-set trigger that i "really really" like - especially when shooting offhand at 100-150 yds (bullet leaves when you want it too, kind of at the moment the hairs "float" over a soda can" as your trying to hold steady at that distance - ok pretty darn tough for me). Probably has 400-500 bullets down the factory tube, and perhaps a damaged crown from dragging a bronze brush back through the muzzle, which is why i think accuracy could be compromised. Action is not pillar bedded nor have i done a DOE on action screw tension (ive read a lot recently!)
Sorry about the long winded discussion but it sets some context. Anyway - I would appreciate any thoughts about this rifle in general. My uncle who was a gunsmith back then, said 9 times out of 10 the Remington 700 would shoot better out of the box than the Ruger.
thx,
Paul
