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Rifle Recoil Lugs?

hoz53

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My question is for a recoil lug on a Rem 700 does a .250 aftermarket recoil lug (what i usually use) have much advantage over the factory lug. The factory lug in question is flat and parallel and rite at .189 thick. I would have to take material off the barrel shoulder to fit the .250 lug as Im putting it back together with same factory barrel. no big deal but if its not needed i wont do it. Thanks
 
WSnyder said:
It's not needed. You'll be fine with what you have. I use the .250"'s because they are plentiful and have become the standard but not because I think I need more strength. The thing I like about a tapered .250" is they are easier to tape when bedding than a std lug.
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Thanks Snyder —- thats what i thought. never saw a lug bend because of recoil.
 
I have seen a Factory lug on a Remington 700 bend. It as on a 300 Remington Ultra Mag that a shooter was shooting in one of those Lead Sled type rifle clamps.

Rifles are designed to recoil as an entire unit, with the shoulder of the shooter acting as the final and moveable stop. If the stock is held firm and not allowed to move, all of the recoil force will be absorbed at the recoil lug. In something with the recoil force of a 300 Ultra Mag, the recoil lug can become the weak link.

Under normal use, where the entire rifle is allowed to recoil in a normal manner, the standard lug is adequate.
 
jackieschmidt said:
I have seen a Factory lug on a Remington 700 bend. It as on a 300 Remington Ultra Mag that a shooter was shooting in one of those Lead Sled type rifle clamps.

Rifles are designed to recoil as an entire unit, with the shoulder of the shooter acting as the final and moveable stop. If the stock is held firm and not allowed to move, all of the recoil force will be absorbed at the recoil lug. In something with the recoil force of a 300 Ultra Mag, the recoil lug can become the weak link.

Under normal use, where the entire rifle is allowed to recoil in a normal manner, the standard lug is adequate.
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Jackie, I thought it stopped when the scope hits your eye !
 
jackieschmidt said:
I have seen a Factory lug on a Remington 700 bend. It as on a 300 Remington Ultra Mag that a shooter was shooting in one of those Lead Sled type rifle clamps.

Rifles are designed to recoil as an entire unit, with the shoulder of the shooter acting as the final and moveable stop. If the stock is held firm and not allowed to move, all of the recoil force will be absorbed at the recoil lug. In something with the recoil force of a 300 Ultra Mag, the recoil lug can become the weak link.

Under normal use, where the entire rifle is allowed to recoil in a normal manner, the standard lug is adequate.
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Shooting sleds are an abomination in my opinion. They can crack stocks. Now I see they're even capable of bending a recoil lug! Regardless, I think they're just a glorified cleaning cradle only good for cleaning, bore sighting or scope mounting. They don't teach the shooter a thing about shooting.

Sleds and the bent recoil lug Jackie talks about remind me of a guy I was chatting with at a gun show. As a younger hunter, he and a bud were hunting geese with Dad's 10 Ga. Being high flyers, they figured it would be easier to hit them if they l laid on their backs on the ground. One shot was all it took to learn the error in their ways.
 
Krogen said:
Shooting sleds are an abomination in my opinion. They can crack stocks. Now I see they're even capable of bending a recoil lug! Regardless, I think they're just a glorified cleaning cradle only good for cleaning, bore sighting or scope mounting. They don't teach the shooter a thing about shooting.

Sleds and the bent recoil lug Jackie talks about remind me of a guy I was chatting with at a gun show. As a younger hunter, he and a bud were hunting geese with Dad's 10 Ga. Being high flyers, they figured it would be easier to hit them if they l laid on their backs on the ground. One shot was all it took to learn the error in their ways.
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i dont use shooting sleds and i dont shoot the 12 gauge pump off the bench. o_O thanks
 
jackieschmidt said:
I have seen a Factory lug on a Remington 700 bend. It as on a 300 Remington Ultra Mag that a shooter was shooting in one of those Lead Sled type rifle clamps.

Rifles are designed to recoil as an entire unit, with the shoulder of the shooter acting as the final and moveable stop. If the stock is held firm and not allowed to move, all of the recoil force will be absorbed at the recoil lug. In something with the recoil force of a 300 Ultra Mag, the recoil lug can become the weak link.

Under normal use, where the entire rifle is allowed to recoil in a normal manner, the standard lug is adequate.
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i dont use a shooting sled and i was wondering if the bedding would actually crack before the lug would bend? my shoulder isnt the strongest to come down the pike so i suspect it wont provide much resistance to the recoil of the gun. thanks for providing that real life example Jackie.
 
cp generation said:
Jackie, I thought it stopped when the scope hits your eye !
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My dad was 6'5" and had a tendency to crawl up on the stock a bit. His eyebrow looked like that of an old fighter. For some reason, when shooting from the bench, he went from stopping the rifle with his eyebrow to using the bridge of his nose. I had a real good shooting LV rifle in 308 Winchester. I loaned it to Dad for one match, and after the first shot, the blood literally poured from his nose. My suggestion that perhaps it was better to catch the rifle with his shoulder was not well received.
We were out shooting one day, and I fired an impressive sub 1/2" group with my Marlin 45/70 (another exceptionally good shooting rifle I had). He wanted to try a few shots. I told him we could save some time and ammo if I just whacked him in a head with a stick.
Dad was literally a genius, and a member of Mensa. I often wondered out loud why he was such a slow learner. He wondered out loud why I was such an asshole. I miss him.
Regarding recoil lugs, I have also seen them bent from putting high recoil rifles in lead sleds. This on both Remingtons and Savages. WH
 
Thicker aftermarket barrel brackets (Lugs!) do serve one valuable function. They help with sending the smiths kids and grand kids to college.
Before I had a DRO I liked Sunny Hill lugs because they were .240" thick and I could cut the tenon length with a 1" indicator on the carriage. Anything thicker requires a 2 incher and added some aggravation to the setup. Still like them because they will drop into 95% of the Rem pattern inlets. I avoid keystone shaped lugs mostly because the stock will need relief for them to fit. Not good cutting away and weakening embedded blocks like HS Precision, etc.
 
Maybe it's all in my head, but I like the thicker ones. It just looks like it has to work better. I have zero testing or data to back that up.
 
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