The pictures will tell the story, hunting along the Mohican river in Ohio bean fields , 2 inches just coming up the hogs were dug in on the treeline and some in the fields,I saw 20 groundhogs I shot at 10 and dropped drt 9,the miss was due to wind gusts that threw my shot off the 17 is wind sensitive.My closest shot was 155 yards,my furthest 275 if you look close one can see the depths of the fields. The large maple was a great hiding spot. Only one gh slid in his hole after being hit but is drt despite sliding down a foot.The 17 hornet is not to be underestimated if you hit what you aim at,this field is 200 acres I only hunted in 20,but the season is young.No complaints here,the silver Toyota in background is my truck the gh way out there is at 275 yards.addendum pictures are below.