As a ranch kid from Eastern Oregon this description made me laugh!!!! I am about to bush my 1st firing pin, bush the bolt face to ppc, sleeve my 1st bolt and finally time and attach my 1st handle. This site has been an invaluable source of information. Being self taught I need a lot of help accomplishing easy tasks for more experienced members. Thank you for the chuckle farmerjohn.Don't feel like the only idiot in town, I can do math, algebra, and a little trig. I I can figure valve timing, port timing, cam timing, ignition timing, can time the sprockets on a twelve roe planter to place different size seed from 1/2" to 5" apart or even drop 5 in one hill. I can time a haybaler knotter to try string and the needles to clear the plunger perfectly. BUT I have asked at least 15 different gun smiths to describe how to time a bolt or tell me how to know if it needs to be timed and I have gotten 15 different answers. AND these are good smiths, capable of building top grade rifles. I'm like you, I would like to have a picture in my head of exactly what makes it timed or out of time!

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