Remington 700 VSSF in 22-250

[Soup]

Folks,
I'm looking for any information-pros / cons on a rifle I think is a model 700-VS.
A friend asked me to shoot it and see what I think of it. It's in a synthetic stock with a little wider forearm - stainless and fluted. Any help you can pass along will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance for your time.
Semper Fidelis
Soup

"Down South 68-69"

 

[C.E.Smith043]

Folks,
I'm looking for any information-pros / cons on a rifle I think is a model 700-VS.
A friend asked me to shoot it and see what I think of it. It's in a synthetic stock with a little wider forearm - stainless and fluted. Any help you can pass along will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you in advance for your time.
Semper Fidelis
Soup

"Down South 68-69"

I'm not positive but I believe this is a 700 VSSF model. They are very good rifles. Fantastic prairie dog rigs.

 

[Shifty6br]

My buddy has a vssf in 22-250 with the hs precision stock full length bedding block. It hammers particularly, best with 50gr, but his can also stabilize the 55gr pretty well.

I had an sps varmint in 22-250 as well and it would not stabilize 55 and would keyhole the longer 52gr. It did shoot the 50gr sbk just as well as any of my current custom clone/upper tier barrels..well once the original flexi-stock and xmark trigger were gone.

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

I found a new take off barrel(22-250 vssf) it has been on a couple of different M700 actions. Shoots 40-50 gr bullets very well with Varget and H4895. 55 gr BK, BT and vmax shoot with prairie dog accuracy. I would definitely try 40 gr vmax or BT's for maximum splat.

 

[Majday]

I have a swift vssf and it is a good shooter. Not a 22250 but along with what others have said I agree. I shoot 55 ballistic tips in mine just fine.
This is what mine looks like

 

[davidjoe]

That gun you describe was from the period of the high point of Remington offerings and the peak of their value at the gun counter, though we didn’t know it at the time.

I had one of those in the mid 00’s time frame, and should have kept it. The aluminum blocked stock is the indestructible H&S Precision stock selected for the long-produced M-24 sniper rifle still in use at the time.

I still believe that this stock has only been available to us, and reasonably priced, because the company sought the military’s contract long ago.

The stainless barrel was fluted, the fluting was timed, and the flutes were coated black. Remington 700’s in this period of time filled half the racks or more at gun stores, and rifles weren’t yet an internet commodity. This forum was probably just getting going.

I still recall the bolt operation of that gun; its extraction functioned as originally designed, and soon after that period, people noticed that selection and quality declined somewhat while prices increased.

 

[Majday]

That gun you describe was from the period of the high point of Remington offerings and the peak of their value at the gun counter, though we didn’t know it at the time.

I had one of those in the mid 00’s time frame, and should have kept it. The aluminum blocked stock is the indestructible H&S Precision stock selected for the long-produced M-24 sniper rifle still in use at the time.

I still believe that this stock has only been available to us, and reasonably priced, because the company sought the military’s contract long ago.

The stainless barrel was fluted, the fluting was timed, and the flutes were coated black. Remington 700’s in this period of time filled half the racks or more at gun stores, and rifles weren’t yet an internet commodity. This forum was probably just getting going.

I still recall the bolt operation of that gun; its extraction functioned as originally designed, and soon after that period, people noticed that selection and quality declined somewhat while prices increased.

Based on what you said mine would be after the hs precision stock I would assume right? I purchased new in 2009 while working at gander mountain with their employee discount

 

[Bangs OH]

Pics would help. Could be it's one of those stainless/fluted models with a Tupperware stock; they were deemed "VSF" and came in several Varmint chamberings, including .220 Swift, and undercut the VSSF model with the H-S Precision stock by several hundred dollars. If it has vent holes on the forearm and outlined "panels" on the side it's one of those. No big deal if one would like to upgrade/change the stock later, but it's probably less likely to shoot as well as a VSSF in standard form, if that's the model it is.

 

[X Count]

That gun you describe was from the period of the high point of Remington offerings and the peak of their value at the gun counter, though we didn’t know it at the time.

I had one of those in the mid 00’s time frame, and should have kept it. The aluminum blocked stock is the indestructible H&S Precision stock selected for the long-produced M-24 sniper rifle still in use at the time.

I still believe that this stock has only been available to us, and reasonably priced, because the company sought the military’s contract long ago.

The stainless barrel was fluted, the fluting was timed, and the flutes were coated black. Remington 700’s in this period of time filled half the racks or more at gun stores, and rifles weren’t yet an internet commodity. This forum was probably just getting going.

I still recall the bolt operation of that gun; its extraction functioned as originally designed, and soon after that period, people noticed that selection and quality declined somewhat while prices increased.

Yeah the gen 1 VSSF that had the straight grip HS stocks and only 1 front sling swivel were the last of the good ones. Actions were well finished and primary extraction was rite. Have a couple that have been re barreled and bedded. They hold zero and take some abuse without showing a mark. Great "work" guns.

 

[Infrequent Shooter]

That gun you describe was from the period of the high point of Remington offerings and the peak of their value at the gun counter, though we didn’t know it at the time.

I had one of those in the mid 00’s time frame, and should have kept it. The aluminum blocked stock is the indestructible H&S Precision stock selected for the long-produced M-24 sniper rifle still in use at the time.

I still believe that this stock has only been available to us, and reasonably priced, because the company sought the military’s contract long ago.

The stainless barrel was fluted, the fluting was timed, and the flutes were coated black. Remington 700’s in this period of time filled half the racks or more at gun stores, and rifles weren’t yet an internet commodity. This forum was probably just getting going.

I still recall the bolt operation of that gun; its extraction functioned as originally designed, and soon after that period, people noticed that selection and quality declined somewhat while prices increased.

those hs precision are good stocks as you say. I had forgotten those stocks were used in the M24, if I ever knew that!

 

[long40shot]

I bought a VSSF in 2001. It is chambered in 22-250, 1-14 twist barrel 26" long with the HS stock. It's probably the greatest factory rifle that I ever purchased. Like people have said it ran 40-52 grain bullets wonderfully. 55s ballistic tips were iffy, but 55 soft points did very well, even the 60 soft point or hollow points did well. About 7 years ago I finally had to have it rebarreled. But my smith made the new barrel look almost exactly like the original. My only mistake was putting a 1-14 back on it, i should have done a 1-12 or 1-10 for better bullet versatility.

 

[K22]

I have had two a Remington 700, Varmint Models (1995 vintage) which had a high-grade factory McMillian Stocks. One is a 223 Rem (current); the other was a 22 250 (sold). Both rifles are / were outstanding performers and sub 1/2 moa rifles with tailored reloads.

If the rifle you are considering does not have a high-grade stock or hasn't been bedded, I would walk away unless you are prepared to upgrade the stock. Also, I have never been a fan of buying used rifles because you don't know the shooting history and shooting style of the owner.

Guys who shoot sustained fire sequences with overbore rifles like the 22 250 which I see all the time at the range, quickly erode the precision of the barrel. Also, you have no idea how the owner cleaned the rifle to prevent damage. With the widespread use of bore scopes these days, shooters are employing all manner of extremely aggressive solvents / abrasives and methods to produces shiny pristine bores which can have rather dubious result on the life of the barrel.

 

[Soup]

Gentleman,
Your contributions of knowledge are gratefully appreciated!
This rifle has no side panels as mentioned,just a straight stock. There is black in the flutes , but I have no way of knowing if it has an HS stock. I have no Idea how to do pictures-I came home from the war in 1970 so I sometimes struggle with the computer. Please consider that. You fellows make an old guy happy.
Thank you once again, if anyone thinks of anything else, please pass it on.
One other thing -I'm guessing I should start with some light bullets and Varget?
Semper Fidelis
Soup

 

[davidjoe]

Based on what you said mine would be after the hs precision stock I would assume right? I purchased new in 2009 while working at gander mountain with their employee discount

Yours beside the coyote is not in the H&S stock. 700’s in H&S stocks were definitely available in 2009, though. The one I am thinking of was essentially a short actioned “Sendero”.

Sendero is the name for straight opening cut through solid brush in pan flat ranch lands where line of sight can be miles long. Blinds are spaced out within them and at their intersections. The Sendero 700’s were all long actions with Remington’s full length barrels implying their traditional (not short magnum) cartridge design, for the longest hunting shots on heavy game, but rifle weight was not a concern as seated position in blinds was intended.

Remington finally offered short actions but withheld the Sendero name for them.

 

[AWS]

I never could find a 22-250 vssf but I did find the barrel and the HS stock and made a faux vssf on a Rem 722 action that came in 300 Sav. It's been a reliable rifle. 52gr Speer FB HPs have killed a pile of coyotes out of it.

 

[X Count]

This is a VSSF gen 1 and many feel is about the peak of Remington. Note the straight grip, no palm swell, single front sling swivel and modest bevertail forend.

https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/f-s-remington-700-vssf-220-swift-updated.172697/

This is a gen 2 which still has the HS stock but the grip is more vertical with a double palm swell, more aggressive bevertail forend and two front swivels.

https://bluebookofgunvalues.s3.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/images/subscription/Gun/RemingtonRiflesBAM700andVariationsModel700VSSFIIVarmintSpecialVSSFIH13.jpg

From what I understand you can't date a stainless action by the letter prefix as they all start with S

 

[Rick in Oregon]

When I set up what I wanted for a "LR" chuck and sage rat rifle, I used a M700 VSSF 223 as the donor that needed a new barrel. It has the HS stock with the alloy bedding chassis. It was re-barreled to 204 Ruger Match (Todd's tight neck design) with a P/N 3G 11T for the 39 & 40 gr bullets, as I have other 204's and 20VT to shoot the 32's.

It turned out to be the most satisfying and practical .20 cal rifle I've got when the ranges get past 400 yards. I had the action skim bedded to the chassis, added a Jewel trigger, Holland lug, and blueprinted the action. I've also got the Remington factory version of the M24 with the same stock and chassis. With that rifle in the wild, and using my come-up chart and Fed Premium Match 168 or 175gr Sierra's, "head shots" on head-size rock targets out to just past 700 yards shooting off sticks is routine. IMO, these are some of the best M700's the factory ever produced.



My 700 VSSF came to me from a USMC friend who was about ready to depart and knew I'd put it to good use in the field. It has been on many week-long rat shoots thumping our favorite rodents of choice. I think my friend would approve.

 

[MDT6BRA]

I think they called this one a vssf also but it’s not a hs stock.

 

[DLT]

If it has dual from sling studs, a palm swell grip and black flutes in the barrel it’s a vssf II

 

[X Count]

I think they called this one a vssf also but it’s not a hs stock.

Nah they were something else. They are like a light varmint rig. Not sure if that's a HS or a B&C stock. Similar time period from memory.