Remington 700 Tactical - Police Model in 223???

[Jakes10mm]

First, I have "223-on-the-brain". Wanting it for varminting, I had just about talked myself into a Savage heavy barrel 223, when I saw a used 223 Remington 700 Tactical at my local shop. The rifle is scoped, but it might as well be a used rifle with scope mount and rings. The previous owner sold it to the shop with a Simmons 8-Point scope in 3-9x. The asking price is $610. Overall, the rifle looks very good except for a 4"-5" area on top of the barrel just ahead of the scope. The parkerizing looks rough in that area and smooth elsewhere.

Can anyone shed some light on this model Remington? Good? Bad? Same as the VLS but different stock and finish?

 

[PJ]

It sounds like it maybe the rem 700 pss in 223. Does it have a 26" barrel? Does it have a double palm swell in the pistol grip area?

 

[Mark Walker in TX]

www.remingtonle.com

 

[Jakes10mm]

Yes to both questions...the barrel is 26" and the stock has palm swells on both sides. Does this add or detract from the desireability of the rifle? I looked at the Remington LE site and noticed the twist is 1:9 versus the VS/VLS twist of 1:12. I'm learning, but not that smart on twist rates yet. What bullet range can I expect the best accuracy from in these two twists?

 

[JamesNC]

I shoot 55gr to 70gr in my 700p LTR keep in mind it is a 20 inch barrel. The one in nine twist is made for the bigger grain bullets.

James

 

[PJ]

JAKE,
A lot of people like the pss stock. It is a personal preference as to who likes it and who doesn't. At 619.00 it is a decent deal. If you lived in los angeles. If you want to learn about twist rates and what should work try shilen's website. They have a chart tells twist and bullet reccommendations for the twist.

 

[Jakes10mm]

I talked with the dealer today and he gave me his best price at $589. Overall, the rifle looks good...the scope is undesireable..Simmons 8-Point 4-12x AO. But, I'd be buying a scope with a new rifle anyhow. I could do the scope shuffle and end up with an "appropriate" scope on it. I know the previous owner from his shop and he buys a lot of firearms...shoots few. This one has been fired some, but looks like it has a lot of life left.

 

[PJ]

JAKE,
If you know the history of the rifle. It's in good shape. Then for 590.00 it's a good deal. Like you said get rid of the scope. Get a good one. Adjust the trigger, give a good cleaning, torque the action to specs. Then enjoy shooting it.

 

[Scoob]

Jake

I have owned a 223 Rem Police and I can tell you that it is a very accurate rile, it has indeed a 1 in 9 twist so this means that you can also shoot the heavy bullets. I installed a Jewel trigger and mounted a Nightforce and with the 70 gr Berger VLD's it was very accurate even at 500 yards, didn't try any longer distances, just stick with Vith N540 for LR and you'll be fine, also tried the 77 gr Sierra's one time at 100 yards and they stabelized just fine. In my opinion the 223 is a very accurate underestimated cartridge, you can enjoy very much if you do your part.

Scoob

 

[Wild_Bill]

Hi try the Sierra 77gr and the Hornady 75gr HPBT if you load them with a stout load ot H4895 and a Rem 7 1/2m primer the WILL make 1000 yards tested and proven. and rechambered to 223 WSSM they will shoot 80gr Sieras aswell.

Cheers Bill
Australia

 

[slappomatt]

I have this same gun as well. with black hills 68 GR moly i was getting .75 moa with it. about what its supposed to do. not to shabby but i think for the money if you are only concerned with accuracy the savage's are a little better. i have a coworker who shoots a savage target model in .223 and hes getting .5 moa with hand loads. either way they are both good guns. mine is at pac-nor right now being converted to 6mm Br. cant wait to get it back! i am shooting a 200-500 meter silhouette match and the .223 just didnt have the umph to handle the wind at the longer ranges. at 2-300 yards its great!

 

[Travelor]

Tell the dealer you will buy IF you will be allowed to shoot the rifle first and it meets your satisfaction. If he balks, then something is afoot and let it be "walking" from you.

Buy a box of gfactory Fed GMM 69 gr bullets from him and shoot it with the Simmons scope at 200 yards. If it shoots well keep it, if not let it go to someone else.

 

[17VLD]

Jake,

I like mine a lot.I paid $550- a few years ago and think with inflation you are doing very well at $589-
I shoot Starke VLD's in mine and have killed lots of pd's at 400+yds with mine.40grn Noslers have suprised me and worked pretty well also.I think the 9 twist does the best however with the various 68-69 grain match bullets.This spring I'm gonna try some of the Hornady 75 A-Maxs.Hope you pick it up and have some fun with it.
TTFN
Matt

 

[Baer45]

as a dealer, id let you bore scope the gun but not test shoot. Too many reasons with liability being just one. Plus I’d have to pay someone to clean and test fire again before putting it back on the wall...besides, you could take it out and put a box through the x-ring and then never be able to duplicate. It

 

[B23]

Ummm, isn't this thread over 13 years old.....

 

[Baer45]

Thanks for pointing that out I was searching for info on 77 gr bullets....as a dealer I guess I’m a little sensitive....

 

[sw282]

l bought a Rem 700 Police 223Rem/20''barrel With the Hogue rubber stock. it had the 9'' twist barrel. l could not stand the thing... That rubber Hogue reminded me of touching a snake. YUC! Actually gave the thing away to my daughter... She loves the thing.. Now lf l could just figure out a way to get that Fine Duplex 4.5-14VX3 off it;-)

 

[K22]

For a few dollars more you can get a new Tikka T3X which has a superior trigger and extraction system. The stock on the Tikka's are stiff enough for precise shooting. After experimenting with an 8" twist in the 223 Tikka (all my prior experience was with 12" twists), I was able to develop a very accurate (about 1/4 moa) load using the Hornady 60 Vmax and H4895 and Federal 205M (match) primers. This is quite amazing to me from a factory sporter weight rifle. I give the Tikka 223 a Five Star rating.

Another good choice in the same price range is the Weatherby Vanguard with a 9" twist in the 223. While I'm not a fan of a two stage trigger, the two stage trigger on this model is very good. The stock fit on my rifle was excellent and the stock is stiff enough for precise shooting. This rifle also has a superior extraction system to the Remington. This rifle is heavier than the Tikka and has a 24" vs. a 22" barrel but I like the extra weight. All and all an excellent value. After some load development I got mine to shoot in the 1/2 moa range with Nosler 55 BT, H4895, and Federal 205M primers. I was also stunned by the accuracy of this rifle for a factory offering. I would also give this rifle a Five Star rating.

Used rifle purchased for precision shooting are often a risk unless you know the prior owner and the person's expertise - most average shooters I've met on the range don't know how to properly clean a rifle and can damage quickly one. I'd stay away from used especially when you can get a new one for only a few dollars more.