johnboy, oh yeh i never expected a out of box gun to shoot like this with out spending $1000 more i even called remingtom i had a 700 in the 1970s a 30-06 it never shot like this i asked remington do all 700 today shoot this good he said that the 5r is one of their most accurate other then custom 40x. I think i have eliminated any fliers even cold by useing a Forster seating die has tightened thisgs up a bit, I will know more on my next shoot maybe tomorrow, I wonder if any of the Savage rifles shoot as well or better I was looking at their f-cleass guns and f/tr guns.