Remington 700 Cdl 30-06 wont shoot a group

[Hopkins]

The OP mentioned brass build up on the bolt face. I doubt there is an optics or reloading fix for that.

 

[MrMajestic]

I don't see how a gun can shoot over a foot off. From anything other then scope or scope mounts.
3 or 4 inches I can understand. But I have Ben wrong before Larry

Larry, I had a 7 STW that went south and it would do 10"! LOL
Not even suggesting this is his problem....

 

[savagedasher]

I don't see how a gun can shoot over a foot off. From anything other then scope or scope mounts.
3 or 4 inches I can understand. But I have Ben wrong before Larry

Larry, I had a 7 STW that went south and it would do 10"! LOL
Not even suggesting this is his problem....

''I believer he said 2" to 4'' then one a foot off. I have a high end pre 64 model 70 270 that the best I can get 2.5". But that was the norm. I don't see how it can shoot 2" then through on a foot away. Larry

 

[areaone]

Called HS stocks today, got some suggestions, will shoot tomorrow and see what happens. Problems, will go to HS and let them take a look at it, they have been very helpful and offering to do what needs to be done. Great conversation today and their help has been forthcoming. Shooting plain jane flat base 150, 165, and 180.

 

[Zia Hunter]

A couple of years ago I bought a new 700 CDL in 300 WSM and it didn't shoot worth a hoot and would string shots especially once the barrel warmed up. Had it floated and pillar bedded and installed a Timney trigger. Certainly shot better but would still string shots as the barrel warmed up. One day at the range the black fore end piece fell off. At this point I had had my fill with this rifle. Dropped it off at the gunsmith to have a Brux #4 barrel installed with a Jewell trigger and McMillan stock and basically only saving the action which will be blur printed.

 

[areaone]

Shot this yesterday. This barrel coppers in 15 rounds. Gave it a real cleaning prior and the groups improved. 2 in and up. Five different loads. Still believe it is also a bedding problem in addition to a barrel problem. Have never seen such copper problem before in an rifle I have ever owned, I have owned a few, jury is still out but does not look very good for much improvement. This rifle prints different bullets, all else constant all over the place. You have to see one three shot group with a 165 hornady will be a foot or more from a 165 nosler, with same same case, powder, load and primer. Found best seating to 2.66 too ogive. Lots of jump. .060 or more.

 

[jonbearman]

If it were me I would stop now and buy a new barrel and have a real tack driver in the end.

 

[areaone]

In the works as of this morning.

 

[jim_k]

I have a brand new hammer-forged barrel that is doing a similar thing. First two are in a single hole, and I mean <0.1" center-to-center, then the third one is about 1.5-2" away. The rifle is bedded, and that part is solid. The barrel is floated. Mine also fouls after 5-10 rounds, and is desperately difficult to get mirror-clean. I have lapped it, just to get to this point, and that would be my recommendation for you. The Rem 700 CDL's that I have worked on all had fabulous barrels, and would shoot 5 shot groups under 1/2". The lapping is the cheapest, quickest way to find out if you need a new barrel. You may have to lap the hound out of it, but what have you got to lose?
Jim

 

[XTR]

My thought at this point is to lap it, like the poster above said, what do you have to lose?

 

[kevinbritvec]

I only recommend this as a last ditch effort. Buy some of David Tubb's bore lapping bullets and follow the directions he supplies. Shoot the course bullets first using the starting charge in your manual for the fastest burning powder. Clean and repeat through the entire 50 bullets (5 ten shot groups) shooting the finest compound last. If there is any salvaging that barrel this will do it. Otherwise it's toast.

I have used this product on several dogs and have seen improvement in every case. Even a Ruger Mini-14 became a useable rifle after running this treatment. Good Luck.

 

[Tx300mag]

I had a pss in 300 win mag that started doing the same thing after a few hundred rounds.
When you looked down the bore it copper fowled heavily down the right side of the barrel. Very strange. Further inspection showed only 1 bolt lug was engaged and the face of the bolt was .020 crooked.the unusual thing is it shot federal blue box cheap ammo around 1"

Grab the handloads and it all went south.

 

[jonbearman]

I hope you sent that PSS in 300 win mag back to remington for warranty replacement.

 

[Tx300mag]

Full blueprint by stick and a kreiger 1.250 27" long chambered for 300 jarrett fixed it!
Personally I think the old pre 90 remington is the ones to buy the later ones seem to have issues some larger than others.

 

[M14AMU]

It could be any of about 100 different things! If you want and accurate rifle....tear that SB down and totally rework it from stem to stern!!

 

[relyt530]

Here is an update: Sent the stock to HS precision for them to look it over and run through the quality check. HS-P switched out stock, and I found a new 30-06 barrel from a Rem 700 BDL SSFluted that came from an owner that went to a custom barrel. Next step is to get back the stock, switch out the barrel, set the action and barrel into the stock, and shoot it. We will see how it goes from there.....thanks for all the tips and ideas. I called the government to see what they do when things are messed up, and they said just keep spending money and hope it gets better.....great advice huh.

 

[relyt530]

Thanks for all the replies, but after having the barrel scoped it revealed 5/6 leads missing and throat full of heat and stress cracks in metal. Bottom line the barrel is now a nice tomato stake. New barrel put on and it's shooting much better. Planning on dialing it in when the weather gets better.

 

[Shynloco]

First thing I would try is a different scope. A friend that had one that shot very well and he to the range a week later. And it was all over like yours. Larry

I know this is an older post, but like Larry says, my first suspect would be the scope. I recently bought a nice used scope and mounted it on a rifle that shot in the 3.s and 4's. Put the newer scope on and suddenly the same batch of loads were shootin 1"+ groups. Checked the parallax and it was messed up. The scope is now back at the manufacturer's getting repaired. That 30-06 isn't gonna set any records, but a shotgun pattern...I think not.

Alex