I'm thinking of buying a Remington Police rifle in 338 Lapua Mag but i was wondering if anyone had any info on them. I'm not sure if they used the same long action or if there are any changes. Wasn't sure if it would be better to buy this one complete or if i could build one on a standard long action. I would appreciate any info. Thanks!!!
Remington 338 Lapua Mag
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They use a Magnum length action, it's too long for a standard LA rifle. It also has a larger bolt face than a normal LA.
Sniper's Hide has a long range forum with many many guys shooting this caliber, some of them are recording repeatable hits in the 2000y range. That's a pretty good basis of information to talk about over there.
I don't know what the cost of the Rem. complete rifle is, but from what I continue to read, the Sako TRG-42 is THE off the shelf rifle to get without trading a kidney for an Accuracy International.
Sniper's Hide has a long range forum with many many guys shooting this caliber, some of them are recording repeatable hits in the 2000y range. That's a pretty good basis of information to talk about over there.
I don't know what the cost of the Rem. complete rifle is, but from what I continue to read, the Sako TRG-42 is THE off the shelf rifle to get without trading a kidney for an Accuracy International.
Love my Trg 42 and would recommend this rifle to anyone!!!
I have made hit out to 1500 yards, and I am planning on going out to 2000 this summer!!!
I can drive a 250 gr. Scenar to 3150 in this gun and the recoil is nill, with the sako brake!!! 100 yard groups are under 3/8'!!!
Spend the extra cash and get the Trg 42!
I have made hit out to 1500 yards, and I am planning on going out to 2000 this summer!!!
I can drive a 250 gr. Scenar to 3150 in this gun and the recoil is nill, with the sako brake!!! 100 yard groups are under 3/8'!!!
Spend the extra cash and get the Trg 42!
aprapro, I also would like you to share your 3150 fps load and COAL.
Are you using the factory length TRG barrel?
3gunner, If you can run down some IMR-7828ssc start at 86 grns and work upto 89.5 This should net you close to 3000 fps
My testing was done a couple years ago durring the summer in Fla. 90 deg F. COAL 3.75 with a 250 Grn Scenar. If you are above 90 degrees I would back off your starting charge another grain
By the way, with a 250 grn Scenar anything over 2750 fps will get you to 1000 yds easely
Are you using the factory length TRG barrel?
3gunner, If you can run down some IMR-7828ssc start at 86 grns and work upto 89.5 This should net you close to 3000 fps
My testing was done a couple years ago durring the summer in Fla. 90 deg F. COAL 3.75 with a 250 Grn Scenar. If you are above 90 degrees I would back off your starting charge another grain
By the way, with a 250 grn Scenar anything over 2750 fps will get you to 1000 yds easely
With some testing I found that the .338 Lapua works well with H-1000 and the AI version loves US869. I started well below max and worked up to a load of 100 gr. of H-1000. This load averaged under 1/2 moa and shot well. I tried US869 and was not impressed with the amount of powder needed to obtain an avg velocity below 2900fps.
Looking over the burn rate charts I found that Retumbo was faster than US869 and slightly slower than H1000. So I started low and worked my way up and found the magic load of 100 gr. of Retumbo and the 250 Scenar at 3150 avg.
As far as rifle goes the barrel is a factory stainless but the chamber is huge!!! Maybe the reason why I get the velocities I do but besides that I still maintain the accuracy. C.O.L. I am not sure as I am not at my load bench for the next couple of days but I run the Scenar .010' off of the lands and they feed from the mag with no problem. And I use a Fed 215M Primer.
Hope this helps !! ask away if you have anymore questions!!!
Later
apapro
Looking over the burn rate charts I found that Retumbo was faster than US869 and slightly slower than H1000. So I started low and worked my way up and found the magic load of 100 gr. of Retumbo and the 250 Scenar at 3150 avg.
As far as rifle goes the barrel is a factory stainless but the chamber is huge!!! Maybe the reason why I get the velocities I do but besides that I still maintain the accuracy. C.O.L. I am not sure as I am not at my load bench for the next couple of days but I run the Scenar .010' off of the lands and they feed from the mag with no problem. And I use a Fed 215M Primer.
Hope this helps !! ask away if you have anymore questions!!!
Later
apapro
apapro, this is what I came up with using Retumbo 100 grns.
You said you had a huge chamber so I increase H2O volume by three grains over a standard SAMMI chamber fired case volume.
I input a COAL of 3.8 which should be into the rifling with a start pressure of 9000 psi. Ambiant temp was set at 80 deg fairenheight. I also bumped up the burn rate as I still couldnt reach 3150 fps without doing it.
If in fact you are actually getting 3150 fps it cant be very good on that expensive Lapua brass.
How many reloads are you getting out of your brass.
Hope this helps you see where you are at as far as aproxamate pressures.
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You said you had a huge chamber so I increase H2O volume by three grains over a standard SAMMI chamber fired case volume.
I input a COAL of 3.8 which should be into the rifling with a start pressure of 9000 psi. Ambiant temp was set at 80 deg fairenheight. I also bumped up the burn rate as I still couldnt reach 3150 fps without doing it.
If in fact you are actually getting 3150 fps it cant be very good on that expensive Lapua brass.
How many reloads are you getting out of your brass.
Hope this helps you see where you are at as far as aproxamate pressures.
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Shot the TRG again this past weekend and the avg velocity was 3120 fps. The temp was around 7 deg c. The temp last time I chronoed the load was in the mid 20's. This load gave me groups under 1/4' at 100 yards and a 3 shot group at 200 that measured .204 MOA. ES was around 15 fps.
As far as case life I have around 5 loads from this brass and the primer pockets are still like new!!
As far as case life I have around 5 loads from this brass and the primer pockets are still like new!!
I have had great luck running IMR 4350, great patterns and consistent.anyone try running 4831SC to see how it works???.
I've tried 88.3 of the H4831 SC with 250 sierra. I think it was mid 2800's on vel The accuracy was good, but did not shoot as well as retumbo as one of the other members suggested. I shot the 99 gr. retumbo/ 250 lapua bullet last weekend and had a 3'-3 shot group at 800 yards on a steel plate.
I've tried 88.3 of the H4831 SC with 250 sierra. I think it was mid 2800's on vel The accuracy was good, but did not shoot as well as retumbo as one of the other members suggested. I shot the 99 gr. retumbo/ 250 lapua bullet last weekend and had a 3'-3 shot group at 800 yards on a steel plate.
I have one of those Rem 700MLR 338 Lapua's. It shoots just fine for me. If you can find one their a little over 1k. It uses the same length acton as the mag ctg's it's just a little rounder for the 338 ctg. I use mine for hunting now thas Sako came out with the 1-10 barrels. If you have the money go with the TRG-42, much better gun!!! I have both my TRG-22,and 42 set up the same way so the only difference is recoil.
The Rem seems to copper foul pretty quickly so you have to clean it often. I'm using a 225 Sierra sp with IMR-4350 and IMR-7828ssc. I can keep around 1/2 moa out to 200yrds,farthes range here on Long Island). When I go to my fathers in Idaho I will test its legs and the 42.
The Rem seems to copper foul pretty quickly so you have to clean it often. I'm using a 225 Sierra sp with IMR-4350 and IMR-7828ssc. I can keep around 1/2 moa out to 200yrds,farthes range here on Long Island). When I go to my fathers in Idaho I will test its legs and the 42.
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