Rem 700 sps tactical

[Graebner101]

I went and looked at one and I think it's on right and your adjusting it the wrong way... I thought it lifted the front of the scope. I must be looking at your pictures funny.

My brain hurts too it's my 30th tonight lol I will try many different ways tomorrow and see what's up

 

[Rsadams]

My brain hurts too it's my 30th tonight lol I will try many different ways tomorrow and see what's up

Happy birthday... Ya I think your turning the adjustments the wrong way.. good night it's way late I'm turning in myself...

 

[Graebner101]

I went and looked at one and I think it's on right and your adjusting it the wrong way... I thought it lifted the front of the scope. I must be looking at your pictures funny.

I'll oook

 

[Ringostar]

Your rail is on the right way. Your turning the scope the wrong way. Turn the turret counter clockwise to raise your impact.

 

[Graebner101]

Your rail is on the right way. Your turning the scope the wrong way. Turn the turret counter clockwise to raise your impact.

Goood morning!!!! Coffee beacon and eggs and rifle shooting! I will try that! And see if I'm just being very stupid! I pray I am! Thanks for the advice guys and gals! I'll give em a try and post back with evidence

 

[Rsadams]

Your rail is on the right way. Your turning the scope the wrong way. Turn the turret counter clockwise to raise your impact.

I agree I didn't think it was possible to put it on backwards..lol
Adjustments on the front sight for windage on an sks confused me everytime.. The picture was throwing me but I am glad when something is a simple fix for sure...

 

[Graebner101]

Turns out I Am an idiot.... turning the damn turrets wrong way. I had to LBS and then shoot about 25 yards and adjust.... then took it back out to 100 and adjusted again. I'm on target... but not a solid 100% zero... I'll be using my actual shooting ammo next outing to get the solid zero... i had left over 168g black hills HPBT... so i shot those. I use 175g black hills HPBT.... lil different. But not too much to cause me to be off paper again. Held a solid .5 inch group so all in all very productive day.


Thanks for all the help guys and gals!

 

[Rsadams]

Turns out I Am an idiot.... turning the damn turrets wrong way. I had to LBS and then shoot about 25 yards and adjust.... then took it back out to 100 and adjusted again. I'm on target... but not a solid 100% zero... I'll be using my actual shooting ammo next outing to get the solid zero... i had left over 168g black hills HPBT... so i shot those. I use 175g black hills HPBT.... lil different. But not too much to cause me to be off paper again. Held a solid .5 inch group so all in all very productive day.


Thanks for all the help guys and gals!

Lol.. can't say I haven't done it.. It happens , glad that's all that was wrong and now a little tweaking and you will be set up and ready to go.... It was late last night when I was reading your OP but after reading it 3or4 times it finally clicked for me... That and going and opening my safe and looking at a rail...

 

[Graebner101]

Lol.. can't say I haven't done it.. It happens , glad that's all that was wrong and now a little tweaking and you will be set up and ready to go.... It was late last night when I was reading your OP but after reading it 3or4 times it finally clicked for me... That and going and opening my safe and looking at a rail...

Hehehehe.... my rifles isn't bad for the project gun that it is... I like it. :/) thanks again yall

 

[Jackal2016]

Lol.. can't say I haven't done it.. It happens , glad that's all that was wrong and now a little tweaking and you will be set up and ready to go.... It was late last night when I was reading your OP but after reading it 3or4 times it finally clicked for me... That and going and opening my safe and looking at a rail...

Same here, ..had to read it a few times as it was late and I was tired.
Glad it's all sorted out.

 

[6ShotsOr5?]

Yes, glad y'all figured it out. I have a 700 action on a Magpul Hunter stock with a 20 MOA rail (not Badger). Y'all are right, the rail looks like it's sloping the wrong way, but that's an optical illusion because the receiver is taller on the front of the ejection port (the chamber side) than on the rear.

Sighting in with no spotter is a PITA. Here's a tip that has been good for me when zeroing. I have mounted all my own scopes just using the alignment tool that comes with Spuhr mounts. Then I turn the elevation knob all the way in one direction (be gentle, light pressure). Then turn all the way back the other direction while counting the clicks. Then I just divide by two and turn back that many. Now you're within a few clicks with a zero elevation rail. I zero for windage the same way. If you have built in elevation on your rail such as 20 MOA, then you need to dial down that many clicks or the equivalent in case you have a mil turret. If you have a good quality scope it should work. I have only done this with 4 or 5 different rifles, but I have always been not only on paper but generally within 2-3 clicks at 100 yds. All my scopes are Leupold, but one of them is a $200 cheapie and this still worked.

 

[John Russell]

Hello,

Rifle: rem700 sps tactical
Scope: vortex viper pst 4-16x FFP mrad
Brake: SFMB-762-5-8-24
Stock magpul Hunter 700
Rail: badger ord 20moa
Ammo: .308 175gr Blackhills HPBT

Previous stock. Was the hogue overmold that came with the rifle.

Before magpul stock. I was holding .396 inch 5 shot groups.

I replaced the stock with the magpul and added the muzzle brake. Now I'm shooting very low and cannot adjust the groups up. I just thought it was a shift in zero. But now I'm thinking other wise. I cannot adjust my sights any lower to zero. I've ran out of elevation. I'm still about 9 inches low.

Before the magpul I had roughly 3 full mils to play with. (Not .3 mils). Now I have zero and still too low. I have elevation adjustment for farther shots for days. I've just hit the lower threshold. For 100 yards.

I'm not striking the muzzle brake. And yes it was installed correctly.

Any thoughts? I'd find it strange I need more MOA on my rail for a 100 yard zero.

If I'm mistaken I thought the MOA rails were for father shots. Could the stock have added more MOA somehow?

Any advice? Or thoughts?

1 - If the rifle is shooting LOW, and you cannot get the scope to zero, you need MORE taper in the base, NOT less.

2 - You cannot put the Badger base on backwards - the screw holes do match - anyone that has put a base on a Rem 700 would know that in their sleep.

3 - You can solve this with Burris Signature ZEE rings... but that still does not explain what caused this.

If there is a problem, like problems with the break installation, you really need to solve that before you waste any time playing with other stuff.

 

[Rsadams]

Yes, glad y'all figured it out. I have a 700 action on a Magpul Hunter stock with a 20 MOA rail (not Badger). Y'all are right, the rail looks like it's sloping the wrong way, but that's an optical illusion because the receiver is taller on the front of the ejection port (the chamber side) than on the rear.

Sighting in with no spotter is a PITA. Here's a tip that has been good for me when zeroing. I have mounted all my own scopes just using the alignment tool that comes with Spuhr mounts. Then I turn the elevation knob all the way in one direction (be gentle, light pressure). Then turn all the way back the other direction while counting the clicks. Then I just divide by two and turn back that many. Now you're within a few clicks with a zero elevation rail. I zero for windage the same way. If you have built in elevation on your rail such as 20 MOA, then you need to dial down that many clicks or the equivalent in case you have a mil turret. If you have a good quality scope it should work. I have only done this with 4 or 5 different rifles, but I have always been not only on paper but generally within 2-3 clicks at 100 yds. All my scopes are Leupold, but one of them is a $200 cheapie and this still worked.

Glad you saw that too I thought I was going nuts looking at that rail.. it really looks like it's sloping down in the front but it is an optical illusion...

 

[Graebner101]

Yes, glad y'all figured it out. I have a 700 action on a Magpul Hunter stock with a 20 MOA rail (not Badger). Y'all are right, the rail looks like it's sloping the wrong way, but that's an optical illusion because the receiver is taller on the front of the ejection port (the chamber side) than on the rear.

Sighting in with no spotter is a PITA. Here's a tip that has been good for me when zeroing. I have mounted all my own scopes just using the alignment tool that comes with Spuhr mounts. Then I turn the elevation knob all the way in one direction (be gentle, light pressure). Then turn all the way back the other direction while counting the clicks. Then I just divide by two and turn back that many. Now you're within a few clicks with a zero elevation rail. I zero for windage the same way. If you have built in elevation on your rail such as 20 MOA, then you need to dial down that many clicks or the equivalent in case you have a mil turret. If you have a good quality scope it should work. I have only done this with 4 or 5 different rifles, but I have always been not only on paper but generally within 2-3 clicks at 100 yds. All my scopes are Leupold, but one of them is a $200 cheapie and this still worked.

The strange part was it was WAY off from the previous stock. I didn't realize it would be that much of s shift in zero...

Then my gf politely reminded me that I allowed her father to use my rifle in a low level PRS style match. He moved the turrets back in place on the 0 but several turns down. And my dumb ass was turning opposite what I needed. It's been a lonnng weeek. Lol but I'm happy I got it on paper again and problem is solved!

Y'all are great! And not a single troll or someone criticizing me for my oversight and just plain rushing and missed something.

 

[tuttlefarm]

Do what?????? It's Backwards???? You sure????

Your rail is correct