Release issue with bedding job

[Wolfdog91]

Ever tried doing something by the book thinking it would be better and you wound up screwing up royally?
Yeah I've bedding a few rifles before. Nothing serious at all ,just JB weld a Dremel and some home made release agent. Not a competition or super serious guy Just hunting rifles so nothing crazy but accuracy was definitely better after the fact. Well decided this time to try and do it buy the book. Pillars devcon clay dams loads of release agent nice lines of bedding everywhere. Spent a few hours reading and watching to try and make sure this would be perfect..... Well 24hr later ....all imma say is this thing is DEFINITELY bedded on the bright side it's just a Mossberg patriot and a boyds stock so not like it's the end of the world don't see why I can't silk shoot it as everything functions properly till except, you know the action being glued to the dang stock ,but man it really sucks when you try to do stuff properly and it back fires to bad
Tell me I'm not the only one that's experienced this.

 

[DiffEQ]

Heat it up, it should release with a little assistance.

 

[deep south]

Heat it up, it should release with a little assistance.

Have heard opposite.put in deepfreeze?idk lol
Never had a problem

Yeah have bedded several rifles all turned out very professional but my line of work Ive learned how to fit things together and relieve/block out undercuts to allow release . anyways kiwi shoe polish is my go to release agent.

Generally lifting up towards barrel end will let it loose if you think about how recoil lug sits and how you should have taped it off.

I normally don't fool with clay damn/block out just go back and carefully remove excess and use release agent on action and screws.maybe dam up block out area as needed per your rifle

Between pink rifles and stuck bedding you are definitely learning the hard way but you'll definitely know not what to do next time

Not a gunsmith or care to use correct terminology but I bed rifles stress free with no pits or voids successfully .

JB weld is very runny you have to watch it skim over /thicken before using .it works but you need to watch it forever before using to get a good consistency.

Use marine tex or devcon steel and tape off recoil lug correctly then use kiwi clear shoe polish as release agent.the rest is easy clean up

 

[Bill Score]

Get a bigger 2x4 to beat it with.

 

[FredV]

Get a bigger 2x4 to beat it with.

I heard: Never force it, use a bigger hammer...

 

[boltfluter]

The early days of bedding rifles can be quite exciting! Lol. I have certainly had my share of the fun, to say the least. Carry on, it will get better. It still amazes me how well how an ugly, but stress free bedding job will shoot bug holes.
Paul

 

[vonb]

Hit a rubber mallet on the bottom of the barrel. You'll hear it pop. It'll come out. Don't pry, it'll mess up your bedding.

 

[ebb]

I saw some pictures on the net of a very well machined piece of steel that sat on the stock on each side of the action and had a screw that pulled up to gently lift the action from the bedding. I made the same thing out of some 3/4 inch thick oak I had laying around and used a 1 inch C clamp and it works just fine.

 

[Will Henry]

I don't know about doing things by the book but I'm pretty familiar with the screwing up part. WH

 

[akajun]

Idk if you have fabrication skills but make a mandrel that will fit the bolt raceway, trill and tap it, and make a screw jacking fixture to pull it out of the stock
Heat will help too
2-250 deg at most

 

[K22]

I strongly believe in having a solid bedding system for precision shooting.

I am fairly handy with tools however when it comes to firearms, I let an expert do the job for me, my smith. It's been a while since he has bedded a rifle for me, but it was under $100, well worth it instead of me playing gunsmith and screwing it up.

 

[chop house]

Tell me I'm not the only one that's experienced this.

you are not... it is 'heart stopping' every time for the moment of truth. i like the idea of that jacking fixture mentioned above...

 

[47WillysGuy]

I saw some pictures on the net of a very well machined piece of steel that sat on the stock on each side of the action and had a screw that pulled up to gently lift the action from the bedding.

Insert pipe into the action, all thread through the bracket center, align to the stock either side of the action, thread nut with washer and pull it apart.

Aluminum angle and fasteners and you have a puller.

 

[7br]

rifles so nothing crazy but accuracy was definitely better after the fact

Calling myself a gunsmith cause I can put a rifle together with pre-fit Savage or Remage barrels would be like calling myself a mechanic cause I can gap a spark plug. On the projects my sons, grandkids and I do, we use Devcon for bedding the lug and the action screw areas. Kiwi polish for the release agent. Nothing fancy for sure, but as Wolfdog91 said accuracy always improves.

 

[Dimner]

If you used release agent everywhere you should have, you probably have a mechanical lock somewhere between the bedding and the stock. Depending on how bad it is, that will determine on what you need to do to solve it. Of course, the main problem being unable to pinpoint where the lock is while it's put together. A catch-22.

If it were me.

1) shoot it and see if it fits the requirements you had when you started your bedding project. If it does, congratz! you did pretty good!

2) Make a plan to use force strategically in areas that make sense. But also make a plan on when to stop. I often get all worked up (pissed, furious at my mistakes) in these situations and end up doing things I would rather not have done. Making things worse. So I try and plan ahead and say " I will not go past this point "

3) If it's a factory stock, saw it off, eat the 20 bucks in bedding compound and the 40 buck factory stock. Find out where the problem is and learn from it.

 

[338 Mollett]

I relish my experiences such as this so that I might add them to my bank vault of F ...ups .

 

[7br]

Oh, and when one sticks occasionally a sharp rap with a one pound dead-blow hammer on the underside just ahead of the forend pops it loose. Dammit Jim, I’m a gun nut not a doctor!!

 

[Bill Score]

Oh, and when one sticks occasionally a sharp rap with a one pound dead-blow hammer on the underside just ahead of the forend pops it loose. Dammit Jim, I’m a gun nut not a doctor!!

Trust me, I’ve done some sketchy bed jobs, it’s never failed me.

 

[joshb]

Did you remove the screws holding your pillars? I had a 5 minute wrestling match with a gun, then realized my pillar screws were still in.

 

[ebb]

47 willys same idea i was just a woodworking guy and the tablesaw is always close by.