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Redding Competition Neck Bushing die

I was in the market for a neck bushing die for a 6.5 Creedmoor a few weeks back. I saw a post and discussions on Lee collet vs Redding S dies and a poster pointed out the advantages of the Redding Comp Bushing neck sizing dies.
As luck would have it Midway had the 6.5 Redding and also had a Hornady Match Grade FL bushing die so I got both just to see what they would do.I should add that I also have a Hornady FL die set for a 6mm Creedmoor and this post is about loading and checking run-out on 16 rounds of that caliber 4 times with the same brass. This is NOT neck turned just right out of the box Hornady 6MM Creedmoor (NOT 6.5Creedmoor that I am sizing down) brass.

After playing with all the dies(3) for a week or so I cannot honestly say I can see any difference.
My first rounds (8 which was half)sized thru the Redding(289 Forster bushing) after being once fired were not stellar at all with .002 to .005 runout. I then ran the other 8 thru the Hornady with the same bushing got same results. I then took the worst cases (runout-wise) and ran then thru the Hornady FL die and it helped reduce run-out all except one were less than .002. By the way these are Berger 105gr Hybrid bullets.

Next I decide that I really only needed a .270 bushing so I got a RCBS .270 bushing and did the same procedure once again but this time run-out on the Redding was .002 with one round at .004 so that's better...except so was the Hornady MG die.
As it stands the only advantage I see with the Redding is I can easily adjust how much neck I size.
I was considering sending one set back but still undecided.

My thoughts at this point are the Redding while very nice doesn't do anything the Hornady MG would not do cheaper although maybe if I were turning necks the difference would show up. I do not plan on turning necks as this is a no turn neck.To be honest the standard Hornady FL die gave the lowest run-out but I like the idea of controlling neck tension with the bushings.
Any feedback appreciated.
 
Check out German's site, Rifleman's Journal. Good info about neck sizing unturned brass. Mainly you need to neck it down in two steps, reducing by no more than .005" per pass (IIRC). the sequence of when u bump the shoulder seems to matter, as well.
 
One of my rifles has a clear preference for Varget powder also - and the load only works with Winchester brass (other than my LC11 and Blue Box Lapua) as it holds enough of the powder to get me on the node, whereas the other two don't. I guess even I use a lot of different brass for different applications. More than I realized.
 
After a couple frustrating years of trying to get good results neck sizing and spending a small fortune, I gave up on it. I know neck sizing works for some but 2 to 5 thousandths is about the best I could get too. I now just use plain old RCBS FL dies with the button removed, a sinclair expander and anneal every firing and all my brass is under 1 thousandth runout.

Sizing or expanding in steps is important as stated above if you want to keep things concentric.
 

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