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Range Finder and Bino's for long range Varminting

Hey guys, I've been long range varmint hunting for years. During that time, I discovered the need and importance for quality optics to assist me in this obsessive endeavor of mine. My first purchase was a Range finder. I choose the Swarovski 8x30 Laser Guided Range Finder. It is the finest range finder I have ever owned. I sold two firearms so I could buy one of these babies. An accurate range finder is a must when trying to hit a small Ground Squirrel or P-Dog at 700 to 1000 yards. If you can't afford the Swaro, I would also recommend the Leica CRF 1200. It's a very nice range finder too. I have used the Bushnell's as well, they work well out to about 500 to 600 yards. However, they just don't cut it for 700 to 1000 yard readings.

Regarding Binoculars, WOW!!! this was a hard undertaking to pick the right pair. I decided I wanted a high magnification pair of bi-nos in the 10x to 15x range. I decided it would be between the Zeiss, Swarovski, Leicas or Nikons. I thought for sure the Swarovski's would be the bi-nos I would pick. However, I was wrong, I ended up getting a pair of the Zeiss 15x45 Conquests. The clarity of the Zeiss bi-nos is AWESOME! I am glad I took the time to look through each and every pair before I bought. I was also impressed with the Nikon's, for the price, they are impressive. The Swarovski's were awesome too, however, through my eyes the Zeiss clarity was better.

Like I said, I had to sell other firearms to be able to afford these types of optics. If you decide to shoot varmints, at long range, you'll find out very quickly how important it is to have quality optics. When you spend a bunch of time looking through Binoculars, it can become very hard on the eyes. So the better quality binoculars you have, the more comfortable you'll be during your varmint hunt. I learned the hard way during the beginning years of long range varminting, and I realized how important it is to have quality optics.

Like I said, before you buy binoculars, go and look through each pair before you buy. Regarding the range finder, I would highly recommend the Swarovski 8x30 Laser Guided Range Finder followed by the Leica CRF 1200.

One more thing, I am stating my own opinion on what I think works best for me. Another brand of optics might work better for someone else. I don't want to offend anybody or imply that other brands are bad, I just wanted to give my experience with what I use and have had success with.
 
My Leupold range finding biono's have done good by me but they are heavy and eat batteries.

Not a big deal on the bench or by the truck but in the field it's an issue.
 
Holy Schmidt there 6BRMan, I know what to do if I win the lottery!! :D !!

But I am with the other guy, very good write up and information. Thanks, till then I'll make do... ;)

Nodak
 
7C15,

Yepper I make do with my Wild and a pair of Celstron Astronomy 20x binocs.

On the other hand I would love to have what 6br speaks to, certainly would be the cats meow... The Wild does not pack to easy if ya know what I'm saying.

Again 6BR, great write-up, thanks for the post.

Nodak
 
Thanks for the compliments guys. I know, I spent a bunch of money on this stuff. I had to sell a total of three firearms to afford all of it. Was it worth it, YES!!
 
Your right 6BR, with glass, ya get what ya pay for... But in the meantime, can ya adopt me so I can look forwards to a super kool b-day present? :D

Nodak
 
Nodak, you'll be the first one I adopt. How does that sound?

It's true, you do get what you pay for, however, sometimes the most expensive pair of binoculars will not always be the best. Like I said, I was sure I was going to buy the Swarovski's when I went shopping, but as you read, I bought the Zeiss binoculars.

It's very important to go look through the binos before you buy a pair. Had the Zeiss 15x45 Conquests not been so freakin clear, I probably would have bought a pair of the Nikon Monarch ATB's. If you need a pair of binoculars and you can't afford the higher end binoculars, I would highly recommend the Nikon Monarch ATB's. I would have to say, and I am not making this up, they were close to the clarity of the higher end binos. I looked through a pair of the Leupold Golden Ring binos. They are nice, however, I felt the clarity of Nikon's were much better and the price was much cheaper.

Before I had the Swarovski 8x30 Laser Guided Range Finder and the Zeiss 15x45 Conquests, I was using a pair of Leupold 12x50 Wind Rivers Binoculars and a Bushnell Elite 1500. The Leupold Wind Rivers were good for classing out to about 400 yards. Regarding the Bushnell Elite 1500 range finder, I had a hard time getting it to range past 700 yards. It's supposed to be able to range out to 1500 yards, but I never got it to range that far. I was very disappointed with the Bushnell's. I sold them so I could put the money towards the Swaros.

If your only needing to range out to around 500 yards, the Bushnell Elite will do the job. Maybe I had a bad pair, I just had a hard time getting the darn things to range on certain objects. When I range an object with the Swarovski 8x30's, it ranges it immediately no matter how far it is.

Like I said, the Swarovski 8x30 Laser Guided Range Finder is the best one out there. The Leica CRF 1200 is close behind. *****I FORGOT TO MENTION SOMETHING AND THIS IS IMPORTANT***** If you buy the Leicas, BEWARE, the target indicator is a very light green or red. If you have any type of color deficiency, you'll not be able to see the target indicator against the back drop. I know, because I have a slight color deficiency, and when I tried to range an object with the Leica CRF 1200, I could not see the indicator against the object. If you decide to buy a pair, make sure you don't have this problem. The Swarovski's target indicator is a very bright red and I have no problem seeing it against any objects.

One more thing before I go, I have heard really good things about the Nikon Gold Laser 1200 Range Finder. I wish I could report on them myself, however, I have not used them. When I was at the range, I talked to a guy who said he was very impressed with the Nikon range finder. I just wanted to let you guy know about them as well.

Anyhow, I hope some of this info helps someone thinking about buying new optics. It will be one of the must important decision you make when preparing to shoot varmints at long range. The more info you have, the better prepared you'll be.
 
The Leica Geovids would have been my first choice. Quality binos with a built in range finder, but the price was a bit to steep for me. I've tested them out and they have excellent glass and ranging abilities beyond 1000 yds. Because of the price, I settled for the Leica CRF 1200, which I have been very pleased with. It fits nicely in my front shirt pocket and always accompanies me on my outings with gun or bow. Someday I will get myself a pair of those Geovids.
 
'It's very important to go look through the binos before you buy a pair'. Amen there Sunshine.

If I could add this, ask the clerk to let him escort you outside and look thru the glass in actual outside lighting conditions & real distances..

6BR, gotta tell ya, your Orange Crush is one kick butt looking rig...

Nodak
 
Qube, your right the Leica Geovids are AWESOME. They are just so darn expensive. I think they start around $2600 for the 8x42 and go up to $3300 for the 15x56 pair. I would still choose the Swaro 8x30 Range Finder over the Geovids, why, because they out range the Geovids by 300 yards and their $1600 cheaper, but that's my opinion.

I think the Geovids are priced too high for what they can do. With that price, they should be able to range out to 2000 yards. I am not putting them down at all, I just think you can get more bang for your buck with the Swarovski 8x30 Laser Guided range finder and buying a separate pair of binos. I can see where a hunter would find the Geovids attractive due to cutting down on items carried in the field. However, for the long range varmint hunter, who sits at a table or shoots prone, this is not really a big deal, at least it's not a bid deal to me.
 
Nodak, thanks for the compliment on the rifle. I really like it, it turned out really nice. I've also decided that Orange Crush is the perfect name.
 

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I have owned and used most top makes of binos and by far the best is the new Zeiss Vistory range finding binos,the clarity is superb and the range finder goes out to about 1600 yards,at last light I can spend and extra half an hour waiting for deer to move and can clearly ID them,the range finder also works at night
expensive yes,but well worth it.
the day I got them a few of my mates had a good look through them,guess what,they now own a set
 
I have been hearing good things about the Zeiss range finder too. I know how clear my Zeiss 15x45 Conquests are, so I bet their range finder is super clear too.
 
The Moderator wrote up a great article on this Topic in the AccurateShooter.com bulletin section.
 
I went for the 10x Geovids and i'm glad i did. As a walking coyote hunter they're just what i needed--saved a bit of paraphernalia. I'm actually gonna be ordering the 2.5 power booster from Bushnell shortly too for the most portable 'spotting scope' of all.
 
Hello fellas,

I use a Leupold RX-III rangefinder, I really like it. However, I seem to have some trouble ranging animals and even bushes, trees, ...... at long ranges. The thing seems to go through batteries pretty quick, should I just keep up with some fresh batteries. If anyone has a few tip for better target acquisition, it would be appreciated.

-Matt
 
lONG40SHOT, At what range are you having trouble ranging the objects? Also, what is the max range for these range finders?
 
According to Leupold, the model I have is good on reflective stuff out to 1200 yds and I think around 800 yds on other stuff. I am trying to range stuff around from 500 yds and out. I am going P-Dog shooting in May and am hoping to get this figured out before then. It work sometimes fairly well at long range on darker colored stuff like cedar trees and deer. I am wondering if I just need to keep fresh batteries in the thing.
 

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