Radical True Velocity Ammo Failures

[Robert Weidler]

A friend gifted me a box of True Velocity .308 ammo. I took them to the range today to see what they would do and here are the results. One pierced primer and two blown necks. These cartridges are advertised to be the latest and greatest but the results say otherwise. The blown (separated) necks required the chambering (partial) of another round to extract. The pierced primer was a total surprise as I have never before experienced one in thousands of rounds fired. Imagine if you are hunting and shoot at a game animal and require a quick follow up shot. I chronographed the twenty rounds and had an ES of 42 on rounds that are supposedly loaded to 0.01 grains. These TV cartridges are junk. Don't waste your money. BTW, my rifle is a Howa 1500 mounted on an MTG ESS chassis. It typically shoots 3/4 to 1 moa at 200 yards and has never given me a problem in 450 firings. I shoot hot loads too.

Uncle Bob

 

[46and2]

Dude, you need to borescope your chamber to make sure that didn't torch cut gouges in our chamber!

 

[jimmymac]

What are the cases made of?

 

[jackieschmidt]

Here is a pretty comprehensive test.
This guy seems pretty much on the up and up.

For the civilian market, this seems like a solution in search of a problem.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I cant believe they actually sold a box

 

[Rem06]

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A friend gifted me a box of True Velocity .308 ammo. I took them to the range today to see what they would do and here are the results. One pierced primer and two blown necks. These cartridges are advertised to be the latest and greatest but the results say otherwise. The blown (separated) necks required the chambering (partial) of another round to extract. The pierced primer was a total surprise as I have never before experienced one in thousands of rounds fired. Imagine if you are hunting and shoot at a game animal and require a quick follow up shot. I chronographed the twenty rounds and had an ES of 42 on rounds that are supposedly loaded to 0.01 grains. These TV cartridges are junk. Don't waste your money. BTW, my rifle is a Howa 1500 mounted on an MTG ESS chassis. It typically shoots 3/4 to 1 moa at 200 yards and has never given me a problem in 450 firings. I shoot hot loads too.

Uncle Bob

did you search the box for "Game friendly" written somewhere?
or "California Approved"? lol.

 

[USMCDOC]

Have you guys contacted Winchester yet?

 

[Kracken McGraw]

What are the cases made of?

Case is polymer.

 

[KMart]

What could possibly go wrong? Anybody remember Wanda shotgun shells from 50 years ago?

 

[perazziguy]

I

What could possibly go wrong? Anybody remember Wanda shotgun shells from 50 years ago?

My dad remember the Wanda shells. I can barely remember Eclipse shells, I've shot a ton of Activ shells in a wore out Model 12.

 

[46and2]

I guess they'll have to marketing a polymer vapor deposit remover bore cleaner.

But then again, if you're shooting these you might not know a lot about barrel maintenance.

 

[joshb]

I wouldn’t pay that for any ammo, let alone some new fangled experiment.

 

[KMart]

I

My dad remember the Wanda shells. I can barely remember Eclipse shells, I've shot a ton of Activ shells in a wore out Model 12.

The Wanda case was moulded from polycarbonate plastic. Activ was polyethylene plastic with a steel head. It was a good shell. I never heard of Eclipse shells but heard good things about their targets

 

[DiffEQ]

You sure the person who gifted those was "a friend"?
That you continued shooting them after the pierced primer or neck failure leads me to question your judgment.

 

[hogpatrol]

We went down this road with .223/5.56. IIRC, that experiment lasted a couple years.

 

[wboggs]

Let the military sort out the problems. I and most others here have no use for these. Lots of marketing hype about uniformity. Weigh saving is their advantage.

 

[Louisiana Shooter]

 

[MSS]

I saw these at Cabelas. I was tempted but the price made me pass. I am so glad!

 

[K22]

While I try to keep an open mind on innovations, this one feels like one of those solutions for a problem that does not exist.

There is enough existing issues to deal with trying to maintain a precision rifle, why introduce another variable? Hell, we haven't even figured out a universally accepted method on how to clean a rifle yet.

 

[Bill K]

I don't believe the military has stayed with them either. Another way to try and reduce weight. Just stick to good olf tried and true brass.