More to it than that and it depends on the facility and more stuff. Some rf tunnels are set up that way but two things...one is it's rf and two is their results are typically not as good as can be fired from a more typical rest setup. Their idea is just consistency in testing more than how small they can get the ammo to shoot, if that makes sense. I don't know of any such facility where the gun is held rigidly for cf testing. Tests were done years ago with the bbl in poured concrete and the results weren't good.
thanks for that update.. i don't shoot ARA anymore either..
Of course they are the pinnacle rifle in this sport but like you said, they are a system that allows the gun to recoil. I think that's the key difference. They're not fixed solid and that recoil control can be tuned too.
The logic is sound, I’m not sure why I never come across them, nor even talk of a match for them. I don’t believe I’ve actually even seen one. I’m sure they are awkward to transport and perhaps the few that are out there are too dispersed to hold well-attended matches. Really, the only reason I haven’t built one is that experiments without peers or a place to even try one competitively, aren’t as fun. Few folks seem smitten with an F-unlimited Div.
A hard hold is a whole lot different that not being able to break away in the bags and Palma and prone are different games with different accuracy requirement from br, on top of that. I know several people that put a little shoulder into it or a little thumb pressure on the tang area, etc, but nobody that I've ever seen consistently shoot well in br uses any form of what I'd refer to as a hard hold and a lot don't hold it at all. And if it slides freely or with minimal force, then we were in agreement until you brought up a hard hold in a different game working like a BR rifle. Just apples and oranges. Again, I think we were in agreement. I agreed with your previous post. Just omit the second word(but) of my reply and read it again and I think it reads differently.
I've seen it done in experimental situations to reduce variables from the load development.
Rail guns don't work as well as bag guns in score, generally. And yes, they are mostly seen at bigger group matches. So yes again, it's not as fun to shoot alone but there are several at bigger group matches. Still nothing like the other classes, probably for the reasons you just mentioned. They certainly aren't what I'd call versatile. Lol! That said, it kinda gets to the point of this thread because you'd expect the groups to be much smaller, but they aren't much, typically. Kinda apples and oranges too, because some are 10 shot groups or I think 8 matches instead of the typical 5 cards at each yardage. It makes it hard to judge much by simply looking at match reports and group sizes because no other classes are playing under the same rules, so to speak and quite literally. I've shot them but I've never owned a true rail gun either. There's not not a lot of opportunity to shoot them in matches unless you shoot a lot of group matches and travel considerably for 4 gun matches, etc. Very cool pieces of equipment though. Lots and lots of room to experiment.
Great way to blow up a scope.
I'm familiar and shoot similarly, especially with the small 30s. It's a far cry from the rifle not breaking free in the bags. Again, apples and oranges. Your shoulder has a lot of give for the first say 1/16th of an inch or less. Are you a br shooter?
I shoot old timey br guns and a 40x rimfire. I shoot free recoil.
Let me try explaining in a little differently then. Imagine a wet leather front bag with the front rest squeezing it tight against the gun. That kind of freedom of movement problem. I hope that clears it up better.
