I went and watched my 1st PRS match I enjoyed the day but it’s nothing I’m interested in or physically able todo but was fun to watch both the match and the people. And had some great conversations with some really nice people. few things I learned was every miss was because of the wind and that the wind was better for the group that just left a stage than it was for the people shooting the stage now. Seamed like most all shooters were checking the wind the whole time they waiting to be called to the line for that stage. It was almost like the only thing people talked about the whole day was the wind. I guess I found that interesting because at the small 600/1000 F class match I shoot monthly we do talk about the wind some but also talk more about what’s for lunch, I found some extra primers if you need some, did you make that, and I blew that 200 with one bad trigger pull. I guess we need to start talking more about the wind, maybe like that breeze sure feel good or maybe that wind is helping keep those mosquitoes at bay. just range rambling
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D-4297
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Might just be that F-class shooters know that wind is a primary issue due to a smaller target , i.e. , the X-ring , and it is just another facet of high level performance . It's "accepted" as part of normal conditions , for the day . So it doesn't get as much , "discussion" from competitors . Just something that's always there .
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
Wind is a big issue for folks that just learned how much difference it really makes. Imagine what a 180deg shift halfway does to a guy with a kestrel on the firing line but no more indicators down range?
Exactly. I have a buddy shooting a PRS match today. Here's part of his texts to me this morning...
It's because you are on a straight firing line shooting the same direction. In PRS matches you might be shooting 90 degrees from your last shot on a different target at a different range on the same 90 second stage of fire. Wind is pretty important. You know the ranges and the positions you will shoot from so you need to have that wind call so you can get as many first round hits as possible.
And, you don't get any sighters. We have a lot of 2 shot targets.
jthor
USAF Shooting Team
It’s was in Cheyenne, Wyoming on Saturday. It was pretty wild. The photo is from the wind meter inside the shed at the range, I used my kestrel for most of the day. All the wind turbines also shut off as well.
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drop_point
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PRS is a different game than F-Class. Until you do it, don't judge it's demands vs your experience in F-Class. Its a sport that I've heard so many F-Class and benchrest guys dog, but I doubt the ones that do have done it nor do they know what it takes to be competitive. When I was younger and physically healthier, I would consistently do fairly well at PRS-style matches, but I would consistently place towards the top if not the top of the local F-Class matches. PRS guys would be competitive at many F-Class matches, but rarely did I see the F-Class studs do well at a PRS match. Its a different sport.
MikeMcCasland
Team Texas F-T/R
I shot my first PRS match the other day, and having shot a good bit of F-Class, I am confident the wind wasn't the reason for any of my misses (of which there were many) in PRS.
Obviously wind reading is a major factor in any distance rifle shooting discipline, but seems to me PRS is primarily about stage strategy (i.e. how you're going to approach a 'presentation' before ever pulling the trigger), and perhaps most importantly, building a stable shooting position.
Outside of maybe going into a match with really good ammo, and a gun that's in tune, I don't know that much from F-Class really translates to PRS. I also knew I was going to suck badly going into it.
Obviously wind reading is a major factor in any distance rifle shooting discipline, but seems to me PRS is primarily about stage strategy (i.e. how you're going to approach a 'presentation' before ever pulling the trigger), and perhaps most importantly, building a stable shooting position.
Outside of maybe going into a match with really good ammo, and a gun that's in tune, I don't know that much from F-Class really translates to PRS. I also knew I was going to suck badly going into it.
Don’t get me wrong no doubt in my mind PRS would harder than FClass for the reasons stated. That’s not my point
Wind is an obstacle not an excuse
And yes I believe that the “kool” 6mm’s used in PRS get blown around more than maybe the heavy weights used more in FClass
But when I see 4 people checking the wind on a hill 50 yards from there next stage 30 mins before they shoot not sure how much help that is?
But could give you information overload when your on the line which could be a distraction on execution of the 1st. shot which should be your feedback shot.
I guess in my mind if all these shooters with sponsored shirts and guns with all the bells and whistles
Say they lost because of the wind
They ant no way I could ever be good it. My Friend that was shooting told the one’s who win are the one’s that made correction based that first shot at each stage not the one’s walking around all day checking and talking about the wind.
So PRS shooters you tell me what works for you, just trying learn
Wind is an obstacle not an excuse
And yes I believe that the “kool” 6mm’s used in PRS get blown around more than maybe the heavy weights used more in FClass
But when I see 4 people checking the wind on a hill 50 yards from there next stage 30 mins before they shoot not sure how much help that is?
But could give you information overload when your on the line which could be a distraction on execution of the 1st. shot which should be your feedback shot.
I guess in my mind if all these shooters with sponsored shirts and guns with all the bells and whistles
Say they lost because of the wind
They ant no way I could ever be good it. My Friend that was shooting told the one’s who win are the one’s that made correction based that first shot at each stage not the one’s walking around all day checking and talking about the wind.
So PRS shooters you tell me what works for you, just trying learn
jthor
USAF Shooting Team
It was wild! There’s another Wyoming PRS match in Laramie as well as Rawlins associated with the WyCo PRL series.
You need to keep an eye on the wind and watch it and if there is any similarity of it in direction and speed and learning it so when on the rifle and feel a change you can adjust. It’s a quick moving sport. I don’t watche the wind every minute I am there but I watch it when at the stage and when I am in the hole and on deck through the spotter if possible to watch splash. Just something that’s got to be on your mind before the stage as when you are on the stage and have 90 seconds to shoot 10-12 rounds from anywhere from 1 to 5 or more positions you don’t have time to take wind readings and need to be able to adjust on the fly.
D-4297
Gold $$ Contributor
Since I've been pretty well "Flamed" by all the PRS guys , for comments trying to explain difference between wind reference between two different types of Competition , I thought I'd respond to some who know little to nothing about my own shooting background .
For those who made remarks regarding making shots at different directions , and unknown distances , and varying wind calls , I am a former Sniper , who served Two and a half Tours in S.E. Asia . And my Targets shot back . So take a breath , and stop bein so butt-hurt . I must have had a clue about playing your PRS game in real life , or I wouldn't be here typing this now . This site is about expressing opinions , and FACTS , concerning shooting , loading and all phases of the sport . Just because you don't agree with another members opinion , doesn't make it invalid . And some of the insults were un-necessary , and un-warranted .
I did not touch a rifle for forty-five years after returning to the world , and picked it up as something to do in retirement , after watching a local F-class 1,000 yard shoot at BA . If I were still physically capable of shooting PRS , I would probably be doing so , but Three spinal surgeries , 1 knee surgery , and two foot surgeries preclude that possibility . Along with the fact that a Hip replacement surgery is in the near future . Stuff happens to you , when you weren't there , and didn't do it . So for all you "Chair-borne Rangers" out there , Have a nice day .
For those who made remarks regarding making shots at different directions , and unknown distances , and varying wind calls , I am a former Sniper , who served Two and a half Tours in S.E. Asia . And my Targets shot back . So take a breath , and stop bein so butt-hurt . I must have had a clue about playing your PRS game in real life , or I wouldn't be here typing this now . This site is about expressing opinions , and FACTS , concerning shooting , loading and all phases of the sport . Just because you don't agree with another members opinion , doesn't make it invalid . And some of the insults were un-necessary , and un-warranted .
I did not touch a rifle for forty-five years after returning to the world , and picked it up as something to do in retirement , after watching a local F-class 1,000 yard shoot at BA . If I were still physically capable of shooting PRS , I would probably be doing so , but Three spinal surgeries , 1 knee surgery , and two foot surgeries preclude that possibility . Along with the fact that a Hip replacement surgery is in the near future . Stuff happens to you , when you weren't there , and didn't do it . So for all you "Chair-borne Rangers" out there , Have a nice day .
No one seems butt hurt but you. I was just trying to explain to people not understanding the differences in sports. Why are you taking it so personally?
And who was insulting? Seems like you are the one throwing insults.
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