PRS, NRL triggers
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I’m probably in the minority but I prefer 2 stage. I like to feel the shoe and the take-up before breaking the shot. I run TT Diamonds in both rifles @ 1st stage ~5oz, total break weight ~ 11oz. I set my dads rifles up the same, but 1 is a BixNAndy Tac Sport Pro 2s and the other is a TT Diamond 2s. Really nice to have the same feel across all 4 rifles.
I know a lot of guys that shoot 1 stage triggers around the 8oz range. Some others run right at 1lb.
I did have a Timney HIT 1s and it’s really nice as well, but I ended up getting the 2nd TT and donating the Timney to a friends rifle that needed it more than me.
I know a lot of guys that shoot 1 stage triggers around the 8oz range. Some others run right at 1lb.
I did have a Timney HIT 1s and it’s really nice as well, but I ended up getting the 2nd TT and donating the Timney to a friends rifle that needed it more than me.
TT diamonds have been really popular for last couple years in PRS but they’re very sensitive to blown primers. There are def guys running hot and blowing up in bad weather. So they’ve been getting a little bit of a bad rap as unreliable, but I’m personally not sure it’s totally deserved.
I run a single stage flat shoe diamond at 8oz in 3 diff guns and have never had a A/D, N/D (yet) which -is- becoming a problem in PRS. We have safety protocols so that when it happens it it should end up in the berm, but I’m def hearing about about ad/md more and more often as guys push triggers below 8oz regardless of brand. You bash a gun on props and slam the bolt fast or shoot in 35F weather with cold hands and people start bumping triggers, shit def happens. If I go down to 6 ounces I can’t get enough feel on my finger pad to cozy up on it before sending it so 8 is my self imposed lower limit.
bix n andy is also popular but i don’t have any experience
I run a single stage flat shoe diamond at 8oz in 3 diff guns and have never had a A/D, N/D (yet) which -is- becoming a problem in PRS. We have safety protocols so that when it happens it it should end up in the berm, but I’m def hearing about about ad/md more and more often as guys push triggers below 8oz regardless of brand. You bash a gun on props and slam the bolt fast or shoot in 35F weather with cold hands and people start bumping triggers, shit def happens. If I go down to 6 ounces I can’t get enough feel on my finger pad to cozy up on it before sending it so 8 is my self imposed lower limit.
bix n andy is also popular but i don’t have any experience
ballisticdaddy
Silver $$ Contributor
Single or two stage is a personal preference but would recommend staying around the 8oz/8oz range. Have been seeing more and more folks getting DQ'd for ND's and sky loading lately. Timney, Bix and Trigger Tech are all great triggers just need to find what works best for you.
Yup the stages are a personal preference. I like a single stage as I want to know the rifle will fire when I press the trigger. I don't want any take up.
Weight is also a personal preference. I know people who use 4 ounces and some use 1.5 pounds. You should try a trigger with a wider range of adjustment and slowly work to a spot that is comfortable for you. You dont want to go too light off the top as with adrenaline and movement in a stage you can have a ND and be DQ'd. I run 1 pound on my triggers.
Weight is also a personal preference. I know people who use 4 ounces and some use 1.5 pounds. You should try a trigger with a wider range of adjustment and slowly work to a spot that is comfortable for you. You dont want to go too light off the top as with adrenaline and movement in a stage you can have a ND and be DQ'd. I run 1 pound on my triggers.
xswanted
Gold $$ Contributor
Jewel for me, 8oz in both my 22 and centerfire.
I had poor luck with Trigger Tech specials in both a target rifle and a hunting rifle. One wouldn’t cock in the rain, the other would hang fire in the cold (extreme cold). I will say both were set as low as they would go which could have caused the issue.
I’m not sure how a guy would even have a ND regardless of trigger weight. If you’re moving with the rifle loaded you’re doing it wrong.
I had poor luck with Trigger Tech specials in both a target rifle and a hunting rifle. One wouldn’t cock in the rain, the other would hang fire in the cold (extreme cold). I will say both were set as low as they would go which could have caused the issue.
I’m not sure how a guy would even have a ND regardless of trigger weight. If you’re moving with the rifle loaded you’re doing it wrong.
The common case (I've personally witnessed 3x in 2022 in 4 matches this year which is horrible) is on fast bolt closure their ring or middle finger touches the trigger from the side and if the trigger is set light enough, it goes bang. None were actual trigger fails that need to be repaired, all could handle a drop test, slamming the bolt down, etc. Was decided it was a finger bump on all - 1 was even on video.
This is why "the rule" is that you shouldn't close the bolt until you're on target and you shouldn't even transition targets with bolt closed even if you're not moving your body position significantly. If you follow "the rule" even if you AD/ND, at least it goes into a safe backstop around the target.
While I have seen a mental fuck up of close bolt, realize you should have transitioned positions - actually moving body with a live one in the chamber is much less common (and can be rectified by just flipping the bolt open).
ballisticdaddy
Silver $$ Contributor
By "sky-loading" and closing the bolt on a live round before being on target...seen it many times and it is a rule in a few matches we shoot
xswanted
Gold $$ Contributor
Yeah that makes sense, there are plenty of participants that they run the bolt as fast as possible and simply haven’t shot enough to be able to do it. I guess they perceive it as “cool”.
xswanted
Gold $$ Contributor
It’s a rule to sky load?
ballisticdaddy
Silver $$ Contributor
LOL...it's a rule against sky loading
Its a rule not to - don't close until you're on target, said otherwise.
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If you are on the target and AD/ND there are some match directors who won't call that a stage or match DQ because you in fact followed the rules and hit the berm just like someone who missed the target. I don't personally agree with this, but can understand the arguement.
If you close the bolt with the gun pointed up at a 45 degree angle and could send one 2 miles and get the range shut down forever, thats what I think of as "sky loading". I do feel more strongly you should be DQ'd regardless of it going off, because you had no secondary source of protection from an accident.
IMO opinion we're getting too casual in PRS as a group, I'd like to see us self police a bit more before someone gets hurt.
If you close the bolt with the gun pointed up at a 45 degree angle and could send one 2 miles and get the range shut down forever, thats what I think of as "sky loading". I do feel more strongly you should be DQ'd regardless of it going off, because you had no secondary source of protection from an accident.
IMO opinion we're getting too casual in PRS as a group, I'd like to see us self police a bit more before someone gets hurt.
xswanted
Gold $$ Contributor
Gotcha. Misunderstood.
Every match I’ve ever been to had been like this and in general I believe the absolute last thing the shooter should do in the whole process is close the bolt.
You can shoot in my squad!
You better watch those Jewells and keep them clean. Have seen more of them go down in matches than any other trigger.
Nothing about moving with a loaded rifle. An ND can happen when behind the rifle and dropping bolt and then going to trigger and not being on target and having the round go off unexpectedly. Doesn't have to be pointing at the sky or anywhere but when it goes off and hits outside where it should be and the shooter looks shocked then it's an ND.
Funny how there are guys that close the bolt and it goes bang almost simultaneously. Miss the target and they -aren’t- surprised, yet everyone else is by the amazingly fast trigger control….
Makes you wonder how many times it’s happened in practice so they don’t even flinch anymore.
xswanted
Gold $$ Contributor
I make every effort to keep my jewells clean at all times.
I also beat the hell out my Jewell triggers and have had but one problem occur with a Jewell that happened during load development and a blown primer. Literally ten of thousands of rounds in temps from -30 to 100 degrees and they’ve always worked.
It’s hard not to have confidence in them.
moondog
Gold $$ Contributor
I'm calling mostly BS on this statement.
I run Jewells on 3 Bighorns, 2 Kelblys, 2 Vudoos, never had an issue,, ever. And I've shot in some horrible crap. This whole Jewell thing has been beat to death with failures. I've seen it happen a few times over the years. It's ALWAYS been attributed to either a WAY hot load/ large firing pin. As far as single stage/ 2 stage, it's a chocolate vanilla thing
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