Primers - any scoop on restocking?

[Dgd6mm]

I bought a 12 roll pack of TP today.

 

[newbieshooter]

Some supply trickling in?
Saw this post last week: https://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/primers-in-stock.4020211/#post-37927509.
Ordered online and picked up this morning:

 

[CaptainMal]

Read today that California makes having 20 or more pounds of powder a felony.

Not sure that is true as I did no further research. Sure would not be surprised.

 

[snert]

Just read it, some good info there but also seems to amplify the tired old 2A fears being propagated by right wing extremists and that only serves to promote hoarding.

Like the current TP shortage, the supply chain has been overstressed by Covid production and delivery delays and hoarding, coupled with over demand for ammo production. It's the trifecta for supply vs demand markets and it means high prices and short supply for years to come. As the article implies, buying and holding onto stock to create shortages and raise prices is good business in a free market society. But it can't sustain itself without our complicity. If we continue to buy more than we need, the shortage will not abate.

Do you really need 20,000 primers? What does your homeowners insurance and local laws say about excessive amounts of primers and powder? Will it void your policy should you suffer a loss? Hmmmmm....

We all can help this by making a vow to not buy more than we need for the next season, and sell our overstock to our fellow shooters here in this sight.

Im thinking things are going to get more difficult, not easier. So I am turning my stocks into ammo.

 

[Nature Boy]

Seems there’s been a run on Rolex watches, too!

I know why.

People a buying Rolex’s to use as trade bait for primers.

 

[NV_Dmax]

I know why.

People a buying Rolex’s to use as trade bait for primers.

I don't know why. Hard to shoot commies with a Rolex.

 

[dryhumor]

I don't know why. Hard to shoot commies with a Rolex.

They focus on shiny things to distraction

 

[Gater]

What gets me pissed is I know couple guys that work at one of the bigger reloading suppliers that are buying up the few primers that have come in then selling them on auction sites for ridiculous prices. They did the same thing a few years back with .22 rim fire ammo

 

[JFrank]

www.powdervalleyinc.com
There is a article on powder Valley Blog regarding this subject.

 

[skeeljc]

In the 2013 .22 shortage we at least had Walmart to provide some relief. Where do we hunt primers today?

 

[Texas10]

The typical homeowner's casualty insurance policy insures against fire. ANY fire is a covered loss unless there is a specific, written exclusion in the policy (such as arson, and even that exclusion is inapplicable against your mortgage holder). I am only too aware that insurance companies sometimes deny coverage until a court tells them the loss is covered, but they would risk a bad faith claim, which brings in possible punitive damages, if they dream up some some excuse to deny a claim without a specific exception to point to in the policy.

If there is "indeed a law limiting primers in a residence," I would ask, what law? What state? Maybe there is, but I have not heard of one. I'm pretty sure there is not any such law in my state.

Here's a discussion on the subject on The High Road. https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/powder-primer-and-ammunition-limits.758781/

And here: https://www.trapshooters.com/threads/primer-storage-limits.60668/

 

[KY_Windage]

Here's a discussion on the subject on The High Road. https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/powder-primer-and-ammunition-limits.758781/

A bunch of guys speculating. As one near the end put it:

NFPA is a set of guidelines and recommendations. It has no force of law. It's guidelines can be the standard for the law. OSHA respiratory protection laws are largely based on NFPS guidelines.

If NFPA were the law then there would be 4 fireman on every one of our structural engines (NFPA 1710); unfortunately for us there is no law to recommend that guideline.

Primer and powder storage should be undertaken with prudent caution but I bet most households have more dangerous/flammable amounts of paints, pesticides, etc in their garages

 

[Texas10]

So I looked up the quoted 527 CMR 13.04 and found this: https://www.mass.gov/files/document...13.09 Use of explosive materials blasting.pdf

Obviously not a federal law or regulation, but perhaps a springboard for some individual research. I suspect that there are so many regulations, from local, state, federal, fire marshals, etc. that like layers of an onion, you could make a career out of peeling back enough to find the facts. Local laws are often built upon precedent, many times from other locals or court decisions.

But this should give you pause: Here in liberal Austin (Travis County) a man was convicted and executed for arson murder of his family based upon expert testimony concerning use of an accelerant. The "expert" was a newly minted college grad with no actual fire investigation experience. He later recanted his testimony as based upon old science, but too late for the defendant who was already put to death ( he rejected all appeals and was quickly executed). As happens in many jurisdictions, the local D.A. was more interested in getting a conviction than uncovering the truth. Don't let you become the pathway to their next promotion.

 

[ormandj]

So I looked up the quoted 527 CMR 13.04 and found this: https://www.mass.gov/files/documents/2017/11/09/CMR 527, 13.09 Use of explosive materials blasting.pdf

Obviously not a federal law or regulation, but perhaps a springboard for some individual research. I suspect that there are so many regulations, from local, state, federal, fire marshals, etc. that like layers of an onion, you could make a career out of peeling back enough to find the facts. Local laws are often built upon precedent, many times from other locals or court decisions.

But this should give you pause: Here in liberal Austin (Travis County) a man was convicted and executed for arson murder of his family based upon expert testimony concerning use of an accelerant. The "expert" was a newly minted college grad with no actual fire investigation experience. He later recanted his testimony as based upon old science, but too late for the defendant who was already put to death ( he rejected all appeals and was quickly executed). As happens in many jurisdictions, the local D.A. was more interested in getting a conviction than uncovering the truth. Don't let you become the pathway to their next promotion.

Are you talking about this?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Willingham

If not, what case are you referencing?

 

[rardoin]

Notice how I offer reliable information and ask probing questions while you vomit all over the board. Say's a lot about the effect of dark money and disinformation on our society.

You speak of posting reliable information yet you post a link to a Yahoo News article....really??? Now that is peer reviewed literature at its finest. Sheesh.

 

[Texas10]

You speak of posting reliable information yet you post a link to a Yahoo News article....really??? Now that is peer reviewed literature at its finest. Sheesh.

Well, for starters you would have had to actually read the article. Had you done that, you may have noticed the source, New York Times.

 

[Texas10]

Are you talking about this?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameron_Todd_Willingham

If not, what case are you referencing?

Yes. I was recalling it from memory. Good read, thanks for the link.

 

[rardoin]

Well, for starters you would have had to actually read the article. Had you done that, you may have noticed the source, New York Times.

Well...that is getting better. You just lifted your skirt my friend. No doubt about the color of your panties.