I'm surprised supply isn't starting to catch up with demand at this point and yet there's nothing on any brick 'n mortar or virtual shelves. I'd expect producers to be going like a bat out of hell to meet the market opportunity. I hear rumors of large supplies currently on-route via ship from Europe. Anyone have any insight?
Primers - any scoop on restocking?
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Producers are not even keeping up with demand of manufacturers of loaded ammo. Article in Shooting Illustrated says no availability until 2021.
Yesterday a LGS told me to check back with them in February, but he didn’t say what year. 
2021 is not so far away. Unless factories are going into lockdown they will be doing their very best to meet demand. But logistics may well be a bottleneck. (You can't just fly in a bunch.) Primers - they new toilet paper (with less substitutes available!)
Coincidentally I just now got this from Powder Valley
www.powdervalleyinc.com
Why Is There a Primer Supply Shortage? | Powder Valley
Why is there a primer supply shortage? The pros at Powder Valley discuss the causes of The Great Primer Shortage of 2020, and what you should do about it.
www.powdervalleyinc.com
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Good Read! Powder Valley has been my go to for many years. Good folksCoincidentally I just now got this from Powder Valley
Why Is There a Primer Supply Shortage? | Powder Valley
Why is there a primer supply shortage? The pros at Powder Valley discuss the causes of The Great Primer Shortage of 2020, and what you should do about it.
Just read it, some good info there but also seems to amplify the tired old 2A fears being propagated by right wing extremists and that only serves to promote hoarding.Coincidentally I just now got this from Powder Valley
Why Is There a Primer Supply Shortage? | Powder Valley
Why is there a primer supply shortage? The pros at Powder Valley discuss the causes of The Great Primer Shortage of 2020, and what you should do about it.
Like the current TP shortage, the supply chain has been overstressed by Covid production and delivery delays and hoarding, coupled with over demand for ammo production. It's the trifecta for supply vs demand markets and it means high prices and short supply for years to come. As the article implies, buying and holding onto stock to create shortages and raise prices is good business in a free market society. But it can't sustain itself without our complicity. If we continue to buy more than we need, the shortage will not abate.
Do you really need 20,000 primers? What does your homeowners insurance and local laws say about excessive amounts of primers and powder? Will it void your policy should you suffer a loss? Hmmmmm....
We all can help this by making a vow to not buy more than we need for the next season, and sell our overstock to our fellow shooters here in this sight.
Maybe you should read this!
Joe Biden's Plan to End Gun Violence | Joe Biden for President
Joe Biden's plan to end gun violence will tackle America's gun violence head on, and treat it as the public health epidemic it is.
joebiden.com
Pay particular attention to the provisions banning online sales of firearms and ammunition.
What insurance company even addresses this issue in their policy? Or local government, or that matter? I view the couple of 5-gal cans of gasoline I keep in my garage for emergencies to be far more likely to ignite than the several 8-lb kegs of smokeless powder or the many bricks of primers I have, and far more likely to be problematic if they ever do ignite, as the gas will run everywhere.
The so-called "TP shortage" lasted about a month, and occurred only because thousands of families in every city in the country tried to buy a month's supply of TP at the same time, when the entire Costco TP section holds only enough TP for a few hundred. They quickly caught up. There never was any "hoarding," and there never was a "shortage," there was merely a temporary shortage of transportation.
The primer and other component shortage is completely different, and not likely to be rectified soon. It is NOT merely a transportation problem, there are massive shortages at the manufactures. I have a year's supply of small rifle primers, I wish I had the same in large.
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I didn't realize that Beto O'Rourke was trolling this forum!!
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I've had no trouble finding large rifle primers, so I wonder what I'm doing differently than you. About 4 months ago I went into the local BP and found a full box of 1000 Fed 210M's on the shelf. I only took 500, leaving the rest to someone else. Of course they were gone the next day.
This month I purchased 1000 BR-4's and 1000 210M's off a member here who answered my call for primers.
What is your search method?
As for what insurance company would care about your primer stash, the answer would be any insurance that was facing a fire claim. When the fire dept reports presence of explosives the insurance company immediately denies the claim, and that will be your first indication that they DO pay attention.
Not a good time to learn that there is indeed a law limiting primers in a residence.
Most of that is pretty distressing, but we do have a legislative process that will make most of that impossible to implement. Then there's the Constitutional issues. It is also a lot of simple political posturing, which we hear a lot from those running for office, with the goal of getting votes on election day.Maybe you should read this!
Joe Biden's Plan to End Gun Violence | Joe Biden for President
Joe Biden's plan to end gun violence will tackle America's gun violence head on, and treat it as the public health epidemic it is.
Pay particular attention to the provisions banning online sales of firearms and ammunition.
As I have written before, huge amounts of dark money fuel this political discourse for the purpose of distraction and misdirection. Here is a perfect example of that, and why so many Americans believe that Covid 19 was man made.
How Steve Bannon and a Chinese Billionaire Created a Right-Wing Coronavirus Media Sensation
Dr. Li-Meng Yan wanted to remain anonymous. It was mid-January, and Yan, a researcher in Hong Kong, had been hearing rumors about a dangerous new virus in mainland China that the government was playing down. Terrified for her personal safety and career, she reached out to her favorite Chinese...
Billions are spent every year by the ultra rich to feed disinformation into our political process. The real question is why? What is the ultimate goal? Who benefits? And is the tax deduction for the contribution the underlying motivator? Is the feeling that if I have to make a contribution to avoid paying taxes to the Gov't, which I disdain, I'll make it in such as way to hurt the country politically and hurt the common citizen?
When you look beyond the trees.....
It always amazes me when a Democrat (you) relies on the “legislative process,” meaning Republican controlled legislature, to fend off gun control measures the Democrats you vote for put forth!!Most of that is pretty distressing, but we do have a legislative process that will make most of that impossible to implement. Then there's the Constitutional issues. It is also a lot of simple political posturing, which we hear a lot from those running for office, with the goal of getting votes on election day.
As I have written before, huge amounts of dark money fuel this political discourse for the purpose of distraction and misdirection. Here is a perfect example of that, and why so many Americans believe that Covid 19 was man made.
How Steve Bannon and a Chinese Billionaire Created a Right-Wing Coronavirus Media Sensation
Dr. Li-Meng Yan wanted to remain anonymous. It was mid-January, and Yan, a researcher in Hong Kong, had been hearing rumors about a dangerous new virus in mainland China that the government was playing down. Terrified for her personal safety and career, she reached out to her favorite Chinese...news.yahoo.com
Billions are spent every year by the ultra rich to feed disinformation into our political process. The real question is why? What is the ultimate goal? Who benefits? And is the tax deduction for the contribution the underlying motivator? Is the feeling that if I have to make a contribution to avoid paying taxes to the Gov't, which I disdain, I'll make it in such as way to hurt the country politically and hurt the common citizen?
When you look beyond the trees.....
The rest of your post does not interest me as it is just more conspiracy theory gobbledygook espoused by the other side.
BTW, spending $1.00 with the only intent to get a .40 tax deduction is not the smartest thing to do.
Notice how I offer reliable information and ask probing questions while you vomit all over the board. Say's a lot about the effect of dark money and disinformation on our society.
Folks here might be interested to know that many industries are experiencing surging demand and low supply. One big one is computer parts. Turns out that people like to shop online when they are stuffed up in their house most of the time during a pandemic and don't have their usual activities to keep them busy, haha.
The typical homeowner's casualty insurance policy insures against fire. ANY fire is a covered loss unless there is a specific, written exclusion in the policy (such as arson, and even that exclusion is inapplicable against your mortgage holder). I am only too aware that insurance companies sometimes deny coverage until a court tells them the loss is covered, but they would risk a bad faith claim, which brings in possible punitive damages, if they dream up some some excuse to deny a claim without a specific exception to point to in the policy.
If there is "indeed a law limiting primers in a residence," I would ask, what law? What state? Maybe there is, but I have not heard of one. I'm pretty sure there is not any such law in my state.
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