Powder with chlorine smell?

[MGYSGT]

Why is it on the outside of the plastic containers as well as the steel? Something fishy here. 140 degrees is ok for powder. Not the best but ok. I would look for external problems causing these brown fuzzy stuff.

 

[bobm]

Containers from my stash state: STORE IN A COOL, DRY PLACE.

https://shootersworldsc.com/wp-cont...torage-of-Smokeless-Powder-for-Small-Arms.pdf

 

[grandslam 4]

DUMPIT I bought tons of WW11 powerd , The Military containers wher 150 lb copper lined,container, With a dry hand stick you hand into the powder and none would stick your hand,other cans sticking your hand into the powder and it would stick to you, THIS MEANS YOUR POWDER IT BREAKING DOWN AND THE GLYCERINE IS LEACHING OUT DUMP DUMP DUMP New powder is cheaper than a new arm!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[hogpatrol]

Best use is fertilizer. Make the tomatoes grow and gives them that burnt gunpowder fragrance.

 

[Ned Ludd]

Best use is fertilizer. Make the tomatoes grow and gives them that burnt gunpowder fragrance.

Pretty sure they're also simply way more nutritious when you use old gunpowder as fertilizer .

 

[Dusty Stevens]

The way this stuff smells and the orange fog i was scared to sling it in my nice grass- figured my luck it would kill it

 

[hogpatrol]

The way this stuff smells and the orange fog i was scared to sling it in my nice grass- figured my luck it would kill it

Nitrogen content would just make you need to mow it more often.

 

[jonbearman]

That is weird, I have lots of different powders and have never seen it in my powder magazine. Where do you store the magazine? I see in your house but where did it reside before you bought it? Maybe the dealer improperly stored it.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

That is weird, I have lots of different powders and have never seen it in my powder magazine. Where do you store the magazine? I see in your house but where did it reside before you bought it? Maybe the dealer improperly stored it.

Some of the powder like the xmr3100 ive had since 1997. When my mother packed those boxes 6mo ago they were fine. There were multiple stacks in my office of those heavy cardboard boxes and only the ones that were in contact with the floor were affected- i checked that after josh said something about the flooring. This is a new house so theres no telling what has leeched in there but i dont like my 2yr old being around it. I had like 6 jugs of that 3100 all bought at the same time, all filled up with probably 2lbs (combining jugs bought at the same time) but only 2 of them were in a bottom box. Those labels are faded (never been in the sun) and the powder is like a brick inside the jug. The ones in upper boxes are still just fine. Some varget and 4350 were bought last year- same thing- the bottom boxes had bad powder, stacked boxes were fine.

 

[hogpatrol]

Did you have temperature changes, like hot/cold or damp/dry? I don't know what the relative humidity is in a sealed powder container but if there was some in it when it was packed, moisture could have condensed inside the containers and wet the powder.

 

[JimSC]

this is a reach but is it possible the new flooring was off gassing something reacted with the powder somehow. It is just weird that the only jugs that were affected were the ones directly on the floor. I know radon is a issue in houses for cancer but no idea if that could cause the problem you have

also was the concrete full cured when you moved in if it is a slab house. It could have been giving off moisture

 

[Dusty Stevens]

this is a reach but is it possible the new flooring was off gassing something reacted with the powder somehow. It is just weird that the only jugs that were affected were the ones directly on the floor. I know radon is a issue in houses for cancer but no idea if that could cause the problem you have

also was the concrete full cured when you moved in if it is a slab house. It could have been giving off moisture

Probably 8-9mo on the slab. This floor is that new pvc waterproof stuff. Probably illegal in most states.

 

[243winxb]

radiant heated floors?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

radiant heated floors?

No sir. And my humidity is controlled to 50%. Been between 50 and 55% 24/7. Heat pump although it hasnt ran much its been hot as hades here for a while

 

[ronemus]

They resided in a damp central US farm house basement before they got to my dry western location in 2015. After burning the contents in a long trail layout I went to flatten the containers to put in recycle. They were brittle and broke apart instead of flattening. Dampness correlation?

The powders were probably exposed to high temperatures during shipping which started the decomposition; once started it goes faster as more nitric acid forms. In addition to oxidizing steel, nitric acid is very good at decomposing organic material such as HDPE (polyethylene); nitric acid is usually stored in glass containers with Teflon-lined lids, although a Teflon-lined container (expensive!) would also work. I doubt that gaseous nitrogen oxides (NOx) forms since it readily converts to nitric acid in the presence of water, and gunpowder contains a few percent water.

In case you can't tell, my degrees and most of my work history were in chemistry.

 

[243winxb]

nitric acid is very good at decomposing organic material such as HDPE (

 

[JimSC]

I just find it odd that the cases that were in direct contact with the floor were the only ones affected. That tells me it had something to do with the floor. What I have no clue

 

[Fotheringill]

After reading this thread yesterday, I went home, blew my nose, went down to the basement and started sniffing containers. The only thing that I noticed was a sweet smell from a very recently unsealed 8 lb. jug of Varget. Shoots great though. No chlorine odor or off colors.

May I assume I am ok (not in the overall sense but just with the sweet smell)?

 

[JRS]

Try the plastic sheet moisture test on the slab

 

[Joe Salt]

I remember reading an article a lone time ago that said you should shake the cans of powder every 6 months or so that it doesn't start to clump! That's the start of powder going bad.

Joe Salt