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Posting load Data

Hi shooters and more specifically reloaders, I reload quite a few calibers for me and others, and one thing I have noticed is I wanted to post some pet loads,
in they appropriate sections, and could not help noticing "HOT" loads are not welcome, it's your website your rules, and I am fine with that, but what is a hot load, how could you possibly know what the pressure in my chamber is unless it was measured, and what is safe in my chamber could be way over in yours or vise versa, and you can't go buy the powder or bullet manufactures loads, to many variables between powder batches or bullet batches, then if you start to add seating depth neck tension chamber specs headspace ect, even they ambient temp and humidity or how warm the barrel is from consecutive shots, there is absolutely no way of knowing what the PSI or CUP is, even MFG min and max loads never produce the FPS advertised, there always way lower in FPS so effectively lower in PSI or CUP, So the question is what is a HOT load and how can you tell if my data is breaching that arbitrary number, my staple or go to loads are always higher than MFG max specs, and I am still here to talk about it and even write this, and so is everyone else I have ever loaded for, and I do not damage my rigs in any form or fashion so I must be doing something right, I would like to know before posting, and how you come about this conclusion.

Thanks Dean AKA Scope eye
 
Post your loads! If there are some people who don't like to see loads posted, hit the "delete" key. I always am looking for accuracy and someone may have stumbled on to something that I also would like to try. For courtesy sake, if the load posted is hot in your rifle, say so. There is nothing wrong with the spread of information while being kind to other people about their thoughts and ideas. There is a vast array of personalities on this site, be tolerant.
 
Will do, and Thank you David, You will soon come to find out, that I am obsessed with velocity, light bullet velocity that is, the lightest I can find in any given caliber, and still maintain accuracy. later

Thanks Dean
 
We are all responsible for our own individual safety while reloading. I always put the now standard disclaimer with any charge information I give out.

Everyone who uses loads from any source (reloading manuals included) needs to work up loads and do things in a thorough, intelligent manner to prevent bad outcomes.

For example, my new Dasher will most likely shoot at the node that everyone else's does. I'm not starting there. The first few loads will be a bit lighter. Same with the 284. I'll expend all of 10 shots of the barrel's life working up safely.
 
Many of the loads posted on the 'Cartridge Info Pages' on this website show pressure signs in some of my barrels.

People need to take responsibility for themselves.
 
What you can, and should expect in these forums, is a variety of comments expressing reservations about load data that looks to an experienced reloader to be too close to or over what he/she considers the margin of safety. That's not done here to discredit your posted information. It's done to alert the inexperienced reloader that if he/she wishes to try the loads that you claim are successful they should start below what you suggest and work up toward it in a safe/sane manner. Even though some of the folks posting comments in opposition to a load you describe may use wording that appears to be critical of your work, don't take it personal.
My own comment on such a load might be something like "looks to me to be a bit too hot" .... That's not intended as a hateful remark, just an observation.
 
Your post doesn't tell about what type of rifles you reload for. I assume it's only for casual big game hunters? I personally don't see any point in listing loads for a hunting rifle. There is no reason to think your loads are going to work well in someone else's rifle. Serious varmint hunters with very accurate rifles and competition shooters already have good info. and know what works well. They don't want data from someone reloading for a hunting rifle that shoots 1-2" groups.


Within you OP. This is scary.
"my staple or go to loads are always higher than MFG max specs"
 
Webster said:
Your post doesn't tell about what type of rifles you reload for. I assume it's only for casual big game hunters? I personally don't see any point in listing loads for a hunting rifle. There is no reason to think your loads are going to work well in someone else's rifle. Serious varmint hunters with very accurate rifles and competition shooters already have good info. and know what works well. They don't want data from someone reloading for a hunting rifle that shoots 1-2" groups. Just for a 308 there are possibly 10,000 load combination variables that would work.


Within you OP. This is scary.
"my staple or go to loads are always higher than MFG max specs"
 
I always look forward to seeing other loads listed that I may have overlooked or may not have in my reloading books. using common sense tells one to start low and work up to your load, if one doesn't except responsibility for their own safety then maybe they shouldn't be reloading.
I say post your loads, I welcome them!

Bruce
 
In the words of George Carlin, "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

Or in my own words, "Statistically, half the people in the world are below average."

Think about it.
 
Actually all my rigs are reworked Savage actions with McGowen barrels, or reworked Rem 700 actions with McGowan barrels Remage or barrel nut style, they Most are all slow twist barrels 12 twist through 16 twist, they are between 26" and 32" so they are set up for high velocity,
topped off with either a Vortex 8-32x50 or swift 8-32x50, and they are all easy 1/2 min rigs they are sub 1/2 min with a, Sightron 10-50x60 or a Nightforce 12-42x56, that I once borrowed to see if it made a difference and it did, I developed these loads no differently than you do a heavier bullet,
with little to no recoil - barrel whip or barrel torque it makes for very accurate shooting, and with lighter bullets you can get away with more, pressure wise since the lighter bullet dissipates the pressure better due to it starts moving the bullet sooner, sort of like dropping the clutch on a 2000lbs car VS a 4000lbs
car with the same 500hp engine, the 2000lbs will start moving quicker and be easier on the drive train, I have been shooting with this approach for over 10 years, so I have pretty much got it down to a science, don't knock it I have converted many they all say the same thing, I want to build one of those lasers like you have, even Dennis at Mcgowen has one, he can't believe it every time he shoots it, and wants to build more of them.

Thanks
Dean
 
If everyone posted their favorite loads you would have several hundred pages of data. Where do you go from there? It's a no brainer to put together an accurate rifle with the quality of equipment that's available.
 
I was asked what calibers I shoot, not load data, nothing I shoot exits the barrel less than 4000fps, except the 260AI and 308 they are maxed out @ 3900 fps respectively, the king of the hill speed wise is the 220 swift AI it hits 5000 fps on a regular basis, you can't imagine how quick the flight time is,
by far one of my favorite things is the vapor trail it's the flattest you have ever seen, sometimes I will fire looking over the scope just so I can watch it in entirety it's quite the spectacle, what ever the price of a loaded round is, it's worth it to me to witness that, these are my "lasers"
 
Well, most of us here are competition shooters and long range shooters, so your loads would not apply to most shooters here. Your guns are specialized for a certain purpose and maybe some would find a use for them. Speed and light bullets don't do well for long range but apparently you don't do long range. What do you do with your "lasers"? I assume you hunt varmints of some type?
 
HI Erik, living in the north east long stretches of land, with over 500yds are few and far between, so that is what I am accustom to and built my rigs around, I am mostly a varmint shooter, from red squirrels to coyotes and some deer, I also target shoot but am not very good at it, I can't seem to keep my concentration for several consecutive shots in a row, but if I need to take one shot and make it count, that's my bag, especially if I am in a uncomfortable position like lying down with a rock or a tree root digging into my ribs,LOL it makes it really easy if you can just point and shoot, without screwing with your scope or worrying about bullet drop and windage, another reason I am not a good target shooter is, I am to quick to pull the trigger, as soon as I have the target in the cross hairs I pull the trigger, I don't sweep back and forth or wait between the heartbeats or check my breathing, trying to get a better shot, I pull the trigger in my first sweep, even if the target is moving like a squirrel tappin trees, like skeet shooting only with one bullet, I can get a shot off quicker like nobody I know, It does not make for a good target shooting, but it gets the critter every time, I shoot like the target is going to flee at a moments notice, That's what I am conditioned to and can't seem to break that habit even while on a bench, I see you are with the Lapua team, my favorite 30 cal bullet is your 100gr HP I like those even better than the 110gr Vmax's or the 110gr Sierra HPs, speaking of HP you should hear the howling sound those Sierra 110gr hollow point makes traveling 4500fps, you have never heard anything like it.

Thanks Dean
 
I would be the first to tell you that my rigs are not for everyone, but one thing that is for sure anyone that has ever shot one of my rigs all say the same thing, I had no idea _ this thing is awesome _ did you see that_ sell me this rifle, and they all agree that they want at least one "laser" in there arsenal, another thing that you would have to witness to believe is the hydrostatic shock or "red mist" effect that you get from impacts on varmints at such hi velocity's it is beyond description, it happens often that I cannot find any remains, which really pisses off my border collie "Jasmine" because the smell is so intense yet she can't find anything tangible, another thing that I hear often is, "I am bored with this rifle" I tell you one thing, that has yet to even cross my mind with any of them, folks that have shot them, agree that it makes for exciting shooting, the way things use to be before it became to serious, and took the fun out of it.

Thanks Dean
 

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