popping primers

[Bc'z]

nah, but maybe you. I helped this guy, did you?

I actually tried to help you in a thread on neck turning, but you dont want to turn necks, I offerd up the benefit of a bushing die, but you dont want to use one.
A week ago you told a member that locked his rife up twice to keep shooting it.
Dude your all over the place with answers and bad advice.

I've personally never popped a primer in a empty case, but I've flattened 1000's in loaded rounds. They wont back out more than a couple thousandths in a un FF case.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

IMHO....? whats so humble about it? LOL And hijackin' his thread is helpful right? Maybe you don't understand.... "For every action, forward in this case only, there is a opposite and equal reaction, not in this case."

The case is against the shoulder and the boltface. The primer cannot back out unless there is room for it to move- with a bolt face there its not coming back out

 

[Hermantk]

Such as yourself?

Yes i will
thank you
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[milboltnut]

The case is against the shoulder and the boltface. The primer cannot back out unless there is room for it to move- with a bolt face there its not coming back out

at this point who knows what he did, to cause it..... FL sized to max HS. Whatever.

 

[Fast14riot]

You'll be able to weed out the people to stay away from with bogus info.

Lol, reminds me a bit of Guffey with this response. "I'm the only reloader who knows how to do ___!"

 

[LHSmith]

Funny, you are the 2nd member to notice the similarity.

 

[Bc'z]

Lol, reminds me a bit of Guffey with this response. "I'm the only reloader who knows how to do ___!"

It's all about the feeler gauges.

 

[JFrank]

Lol, reminds me a bit of Guffey with this response. "I'm the only reloader who knows how to do ___!"

Or that savagemark guy that was banned awhile back. I don't re call Guffey ever being rude

 

[Fast14riot]

at this point who knows what he did, to cause it..... FL sized to max HS. Whatever.

Umm, he states its new brass in the OP, which is sized to fit in every chamber and rifle out there. Of course it has long headspace. That's exactly what caused it.

 

[Fast14riot]

It's all about the feeler gauges.

Datums! He owns all the datums and its impossible to move shoulders! Lol

 

[Metal God]

We know what he did , read the OP . He used a “new” case . How does that not in it self solve all this back and forth . New cases are not fire formed , in fact they are almost guaranteed to have significant head clearance . This will result in your primers popping out if fired in an empty case .

Fire formed or neck only sized cases after firing will likely not allow primers to back out regardless of full or empty cartridge because the case fills the full length of the chambers head space .

Why are people making this more complex then it is . The OP was quite clear as to what happened.

 

[Tommie]

Some of these answers throw me to the curb. Or sidewalk. How’s that go again?

 

[Uncle Ed]

I would be willing to bet the cases were actually shorter after firing with just a primer. The force of the primer going off would have pushed the shoulder back.

Many reloading manuals tell you to not use full power loads in cases used for reduced loads. The reason is because the shoulder is pushed back every time the case is fired. This increases the head clearance and you could have a case head separation if the case is fired with a full power load.

 

[Mad_Charlie]

Datums! He owns all the datums and its impossible to move shoulders! Lol

I miss ol' Guffy, he was always entertaining, if somewhat aggravating at times.

 

[Hermantk]

I would be willing to bet the cases were actually shorter after firing with just a primer. The force of the primer going off would have pushed the shoulder back.

Many reloading manuals tell you to not use full power loads in cases used for reduced loads. The reason is because the shoulder is pushed back every time the case is fired. This increases the head clearance and you could have a case head separation if the case is fired with a full power load.

Just to clarify, there was no load..... No powder and no projectile. Just a primer.

 

[Uncle Ed]

Just to clarify, there was no load..... No powder and no projectile. Just a primer.

I know, and the force of the primer going off can push the case forward and move the case shoulder back shorter.

At Varmit Al's web page it tells you the force on the bolt face from just the primer. It's several hundred pounds of force and it will push the shoulder back shorter.

Below just the primer going off through the flash hole, and its rocket thrust pushing the case forward.

Remington 7.5 Small Rifle

Remington 9.5 Large Rifle

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